The mask-laws in germany are explicitly because of antifa

Dunno was gonna point out that laws you make will be used against you stuff

well i dont know much about germany as thats not where my expertise lays in

the thing is, when these laws gets passed, people need to follow them as it doesnt make them immune to something like that

And the german law is in effect since 1985.

So... antifa... really not a new thing.

exactly

it doesnt single them out either

eventhough the bill is nicknamed the unmask antifa law, it goes for anyone who fits the description

yeah, it will get used against anyone who masks themselves

The argument against it would be that it might get used to suppress political opposition if the government can identify protesters.

But there have to be a lot of other things wrong in your country if it gets to that point.

That sounds like a good way to handle the mask stuff, banning masks altogether is sketchy, but making charges more intense when using one sounds like a good compromise

it doesnt man masks really

i mean at its simplest terms, its tresspassing

like dont go around in public hiding your face if you only intent is to obfuscate your idenity

Well... the masking is to prevent being identified, so making the punishment for crimes committed while being masked harsher is kinda... not a factor....

But you will have a problem when you have 5000 masked blac block members and try to arrest them all...

well thats the unfortanete problem with this

the worst that can happen is to detail them all for being guilty of association

plus an iris scan is really all they need nowadays

If you participate in a black bloc, you are responsible for the actions of everyone in it because you provide cover for them... imho

Don‘t you need high quality images for an iris scan?

sadly yes and if they want us to live in a dystopian future that all leftists wants, they need to get some higher quality shit there

what we see being used nowadays isnt going to do just that

Should anyone in a guy faux mask be prosecuted if the protest scientology?

I though it only applies if you get caught doing shit, not just wearing one

I reckon it gets real cold that you need facemasks.

i mean if its a peaceful movement, fine

but i dont to take any chances

so it would come off anyways

but once it becomes violent, just on the appearance on the subject will determine the consequences he/she will get

it may sound extremely harsh but since this is a never ending problem, its better this way than not having it

Or could have it as fine but as soon as protest is deemed disturbance of peace mask comes off or you are arrested

needs to be some kind of buffer, banning masks all together just because a small bunch abuse it is a really hard decision to make

its a tough one to get behind

i mean yes this new bill sitting in congress is open for abuse and very totalitarian but if this doesnt pass and we get one that isnt so strict and broad, ill get behind that one

its just the fact that im even afraid of leaving my own home is what scares me

feels like same argument for banning semi auto guns though

pretty much

i mean i live in a state where that stuff has been pretty much banned