Message from @Catlan

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2019-02-08 23:29:01 UTC  

VPNs are unfortunately just about all compromised.

2019-02-08 23:29:03 UTC  

interview is going nicely, we all know most of this, but Tim's holding his own well and explaining shit that ruins a lot of leftie narratives

2019-02-08 23:29:08 UTC  

I watched the video were Tim mentioned the clik-thing. So, already know about it.

2019-02-08 23:29:08 UTC  

SAD. no privacy. not even TOR

2019-02-08 23:29:19 UTC  

PIA, Nord, Ghost, mullvad, roll your own

2019-02-08 23:29:20 UTC  

so many

2019-02-08 23:29:22 UTC  

TOR has been compromised for a while

2019-02-08 23:29:24 UTC  
2019-02-08 23:29:28 UTC  

cite what

2019-02-08 23:29:34 UTC  

TOR was made by the Navy

2019-02-08 23:29:39 UTC  

and?

2019-02-08 23:29:46 UTC  

is that a good thing to you? lmao

2019-02-08 23:30:19 UTC  

@Unwound If I'm talking to you, I'm gonna talk to you. "All VPNs are comprimised" is a big fucking claim.

2019-02-08 23:30:29 UTC  

also somewhat related: great read

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/463511196860153876/543574371097247811/658cbcd20565e9bfea598413c26071f70a1df366d414b26b22dd126f5235976d.png

2019-02-08 23:30:58 UTC  

Happy Merchant: Shane Smith

2019-02-08 23:31:11 UTC  

I think governments have gotten better at tracking TOR, but you have to be damn high profile and give them a lot of traffic numbers for them to manage to match input-output numbers. It's almost impossible.

2019-02-08 23:32:49 UTC  

afaik they essentially have to already have full surveillance of the traffic you're sending to the TOR network, and then try to match the communication times and sizes to what end-nodes are accessing at different times

2019-02-08 23:33:00 UTC  

How are all my alt-right Nazis doing this afternoon

2019-02-08 23:33:07 UTC  

@Unwound brief summary pls?

2019-02-08 23:33:07 UTC  

What you choose as a VPN is dependant on your threat model

2019-02-08 23:33:30 UTC  

or paranoia level lol

2019-02-08 23:33:40 UTC  

that's what a threat model is....

2019-02-08 23:33:49 UTC  

The paranoia level determines your threat model

2019-02-08 23:33:57 UTC  

TOR was made public because it only worked for the navy if they could camoflage their traffic in an ocean of traffic

2019-02-08 23:34:09 UTC  

as does what you are doing with it also determine your threat model

2019-02-08 23:34:20 UTC  

what? I was being facetious. i thought 'emotion' wouldn't be considered in something serious like that....

2019-02-08 23:34:52 UTC  

Weird description from the outset

2019-02-08 23:35:04 UTC  

A password on your desktop don't do shit against a trojan, but it sure does prevent casual use by other people

2019-02-08 23:35:19 UTC  

Threat Level Midnight

2019-02-08 23:35:20 UTC  

Snowden is obviously controlled opposition and his story encouraged all other countries and agencies to invest massively in security and opsec - only for that all to be worthless because the ((C)IA and similar ABCs already have a backdoor and tech to get into just about anything conceivable.

2019-02-08 23:35:40 UTC  

limited hangout*, more than controlled op.

2019-02-08 23:35:50 UTC  

A VPN in the US won't do much about keeping your head down off of the CIA, but it will from the MPAA

2019-02-08 23:36:00 UTC  

yes, indeed, and thx!

2019-02-08 23:36:47 UTC  

I don't really care about the CIA or the FBI if they snoop. What irks me are private companies doing this for profit.

2019-02-08 23:37:06 UTC  

then tor might be an option

2019-02-08 23:37:12 UTC  

or maybe chaining 2 vpns? idk

2019-02-08 23:37:18 UTC  

it will all be blackmail in the decades to come, do not underestimate these things.

2019-02-08 23:37:23 UTC  

I watch a bunch of Brendon O'Connell, so I will never believe sec is possible

2019-02-08 23:37:42 UTC  

Where do you think "good luck im behind 7 proxies" came from?

2019-02-08 23:37:56 UTC  

I don't believe that Jeff Bezos story at all. lol

2019-02-08 23:38:08 UTC  

If you want to be absolutely safe, route to russia, china, US, russia, germany. Some shit like this