Message from @RyeNorth
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Like there exist some specific cases where it IS, even if there are some specific cases where it ISN'T
Absolutely. In the same way that I'm okay with people who perform higher in their job obtaining managerial positions as opposed to people who just show up for their shift.
OK, let me switch it up a little:
In a society of 5% producers and 95% parasitic free-riders, is it morally justified for the producers to wield a level of coercive force over the free-riders?
Absolutely.
The success of this society is dependent on the producers.
Remember: the 95% do absolutely zilch. Nada.
Exactly.
Beating off and eating cheetos.
mmhmm?
What are the producers working for, otherwise.
Who gets to vote?
As a producer in this society, I would like to leave.
I got a feeling of where that was going.
What, exactly, prevents a person from just becoming a non-producer, anyway?
I dunno. I've been thinking about this sort of thing for a while. Been reading books on AI and UBI.
what is UBI
Universal Basic Income.
I have a feeling that as more and more complex tasks become automated, that more and more people will find themselves unemployable, or else will find that their labor is worth less than the cost of living.
But conversely, those few highly intelligent and skilled individuals will find their labor in extremely high demand and will see their wages skyrocket.
I mean, the concept of a universal basic income only applies so long as there ARE producers. So long as there are things that people want.
And the owners of the automation technology will reap the majority of the economic surplus.
See, this is why I never liked Automation systems in Tekkit.
I think there will be producers, but we may find ourselves in a situation where producers are no longer the majority, which depending on your point of view may make universal suffrage untenable.
At a certain point the question becomes, "Why even play?"
you made me choke on my own spit
the leap from UBI to modded Minecraft
lol
what a twist
I mean, I see it very similarly.
Yeah, I understand the point about automating more stuff
But not everything can be automated.
The implications from the question are pretty staggering, as well. If only a few entities were automating everything, what are they automating for?
Where is the money people are purchasing things coming from? I can only see high taxes on the producers
I concede that the 95%-5% split used in my hypothetical society is unlikely, but we're on the verge of a massive transformation.
What can't be automated?
At which point, why are the producers even producing if the money is being taken away from them to supply the UBI
Saying something can't be automated just suggests a failure of imagination.
Ask Siri to tell you a joke.
Well, the producers aren't being taxed to the point of being impoverished. They'd probably still be massively wealthy simply due to the vastly increased disparity in wealrth.
Presumably they'd at least be making UBI