Message from @Atkins
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ai controls them
1 person verse....literally the world?
They can say if you don't pay me for the use of my machine you don't get the products they make.
and the world revolts
This conversation has become a hypothetical atop a hypothetical.
or they keep using those machines until they die
and someone else makes one
or someone steals the 4th machine
or the tech for it
This discussion is starting to smell like commies.
Or until war breaks down and breaks anywhere between one to four machines
or hacks it to make new copy of everything for them
machines revolt and we extinct... that usualy happen
in sci fi
I mean, depending on how much power we give to the machines
Deep down, I'm a naturalist and a survivalist, so none of this appeals to me in particular.
On a small scale, cheaper widgets. Neat.
On a large scale, though, it's fucked up.
I think it'd be absolutely awesome to have interactive AI that enhances the individual's abilities
yeah but how many ppl would not wanna work 9 to 5 every day?
There is always cost. There is always scarcity. Always. Never, ever use the word 'free' when it comes to anything in economics.
Also, if he made this machine, he would be in tremendous debt. that would be an R&D budget out the ass. So the first person to make that machine would need to either fund it entirely, or find a way to sell it
production does not equate to happyness. capitalism is a system that works to ensure the greatest production, that production is often translated into military might, that military might translates into a country that has the best foreign influince. i just discribed the united states or the british empire that preceeded it which though they did not fully embrace capitalism, had a head start. however simply being the most powerful nation in the world doesent mean you have the best system for your people, what it means is you have the best defense against outside influinces if you choose to do so...for your people (probably).
like an omnipresent personal assistant
like a Jarvis.
or.... give the products of this machine for free to all people who helped support it
There you go with 'free' again.
@Arch-Fiend By the way, it was part of the joke that the mural in that movie was spelled wrong. It's Happiness.
@Atkins i just said repaying debt to the people who helped support it
renting ai cappabilities would work
what movie?
so yes "free" as in return on investment
"The Pursuit of Happyness"
ah
havent seen it
Don't sweat it. Just throwing a barb. 😛
BTW, you were right in our last conversation. I forget what you said before I had to go but I remember you were right.
but this all comes down to: if people are not laboring to dig up shinny rocks, how does the rich person get shinny rocks?
unless he makes a machine to get him shinny rocks
in which case, why bother offering to trade bread for shinny rocks?
are we arguing that through automation we will reach zero scarcity economics and thus the only viable option is to have a welfare nation?