Message from @RyeNorth

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2018-07-02 22:59:36 UTC  

Yes it matters why they made it because they control them.

2018-07-02 22:59:43 UTC  

machines do... if you go from that point of automotive evolution

2018-07-02 22:59:48 UTC  

ai controls them

2018-07-02 22:59:50 UTC  

1 person verse....literally the world?

2018-07-02 23:00:01 UTC  

They can say if you don't pay me for the use of my machine you don't get the products they make.

2018-07-02 23:00:12 UTC  

and the world revolts

2018-07-02 23:00:19 UTC  

This conversation has become a hypothetical atop a hypothetical.

2018-07-02 23:00:29 UTC  

or they keep using those machines until they die

2018-07-02 23:00:35 UTC  

and someone else makes one

2018-07-02 23:00:42 UTC  

or someone steals the 4th machine

2018-07-02 23:00:47 UTC  

or the tech for it

2018-07-02 23:01:04 UTC  

This discussion is starting to smell like commies.

2018-07-02 23:01:04 UTC  

Or until war breaks down and breaks anywhere between one to four machines

2018-07-02 23:01:20 UTC  

or hacks it to make new copy of everything for them

2018-07-02 23:01:28 UTC  

machines revolt and we extinct... that usualy happen

2018-07-02 23:01:44 UTC  

in sci fi

2018-07-02 23:01:45 UTC  

I mean, depending on how much power we give to the machines

2018-07-02 23:02:05 UTC  

Deep down, I'm a naturalist and a survivalist, so none of this appeals to me in particular.

2018-07-02 23:02:15 UTC  

On a small scale, cheaper widgets. Neat.

2018-07-02 23:02:24 UTC  

On a large scale, though, it's fucked up.

2018-07-02 23:02:49 UTC  

I think it'd be absolutely awesome to have interactive AI that enhances the individual's abilities

2018-07-02 23:02:50 UTC  

yeah but how many ppl would not wanna work 9 to 5 every day?

2018-07-02 23:02:59 UTC  

There is always cost. There is always scarcity. Always. Never, ever use the word 'free' when it comes to anything in economics.

2018-07-02 23:03:09 UTC  

Also, if he made this machine, he would be in tremendous debt. that would be an R&D budget out the ass. So the first person to make that machine would need to either fund it entirely, or find a way to sell it

2018-07-02 23:03:13 UTC  

production does not equate to happyness. capitalism is a system that works to ensure the greatest production, that production is often translated into military might, that military might translates into a country that has the best foreign influince. i just discribed the united states or the british empire that preceeded it which though they did not fully embrace capitalism, had a head start. however simply being the most powerful nation in the world doesent mean you have the best system for your people, what it means is you have the best defense against outside influinces if you choose to do so...for your people (probably).

2018-07-02 23:03:15 UTC  

like an omnipresent personal assistant

2018-07-02 23:03:19 UTC  

like a Jarvis.

2018-07-02 23:03:33 UTC  

or.... give the products of this machine for free to all people who helped support it

2018-07-02 23:03:45 UTC  

There you go with 'free' again.

2018-07-02 23:04:06 UTC  

@Arch-Fiend By the way, it was part of the joke that the mural in that movie was spelled wrong. It's Happiness.

2018-07-02 23:04:29 UTC  

@Atkins i just said repaying debt to the people who helped support it

2018-07-02 23:04:29 UTC  

renting ai cappabilities would work

2018-07-02 23:04:31 UTC  

what movie?

2018-07-02 23:04:37 UTC  

so yes "free" as in return on investment

2018-07-02 23:04:45 UTC  

"The Pursuit of Happyness"

2018-07-02 23:04:51 UTC  

ah

2018-07-02 23:04:55 UTC  

havent seen it

2018-07-02 23:05:11 UTC  

Don't sweat it. Just throwing a barb. 😛

2018-07-02 23:05:40 UTC  

BTW, you were right in our last conversation. I forget what you said before I had to go but I remember you were right.

2018-07-02 23:05:53 UTC  

but this all comes down to: if people are not laboring to dig up shinny rocks, how does the rich person get shinny rocks?

2018-07-02 23:06:12 UTC  

unless he makes a machine to get him shinny rocks