Message from @Poptarts
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listen we just need a completely incorruptable objectively perfect leader
and that can only be [insert yourself]
and since i am incorruptable and objectively perfect, obviously i should be the one to lead the new marxist state. it'll work this time guys
the difference though, is that free market doesn't fix it for you, it allows you to fix it yourself
you can trust me to be benevolent dictator for life
I think that dilutes the conversation a fair bit, Senny.
socialism and communism offer you guaranteed fixes (that dont deliver)
free market doesn't offer you any guarantee but the one you make for yourself
i'd be a very hands off kind of iron fisted dictator 😉
We're not just saying that the Free Market will solve anything
i'm just skeptical, is all. It all sounds nice on paper, but many potentional problems can rise if there are no guarantees
Poptarts, for instance, was showing one way how.
ya free market provides the environment that is more conducive to the most efficient and effective ways of solving problems
but has it incentive to fix all the problems ? i don't think so
free market has incentives to make money
If you have a need and money, you can have that need fixed
And since that goes for everyone, your source of money, can be fixing someone elses need
sure few small groups can decide to be charity replacement of welfare, but will that be enough ? *DOUBT*
lol of course theres incentive! you think that business dont have an incentive to build roads to their businesses??
he meant to fix all problems, like socialism/communism promises
Part of the reason why bigger forms of government are unappealing is that the larger, more structured a group of people is, the slower it takes to work.
the demand for welfare will become smaller and smaller, less and less, as standard of living increases as a whole due to more developed capitalism
i'm talking about social programs mainly, and don't catch on my words, I'm not a commie
I'm not opposed to government, so much as I'm opposed to undue bureaucracy.
We've got the Red Cross, right? They're who you think of when you think of first responders to a disaster.
first responders...
Isn't the person calling THEM the first responder?
But when it comes down to it, in a situation like Hurricane Harvey, it was actually a community that came up and responded to the problems.
As someone who was involved in the information gathering backend of an impromptu rescue and supply distribution structure, There were several times in which the archaic bureaucracy of the Red Cross actually HINDERED operations
@Senny i highly recommend looking into some material by Stefan Molyneux and subbing to him, i can tell that you'll get a lot out of it from alternative perspectives and things you may not have considered before. he covers a lot of this stuff we're talking about https://www.youtube.com/user/stefbot/
Like, we actually had some restaurants in the area that had power throughout the entire storm. Once the state of the area switched to getting people out to shelters, these restaurants were trying to bring hot meals to them as they waited for transport out of the area
Nah thanks. I'm fine. Molymeme is not to my taste.
Moly is hit and miss imo
And I'm saying that after listening to hours of his ideas.
lol... okay. not interested in the problems youre asking about? i dont know a better person who can explain this stuff more eloquently
The Red Cross refused to let these volunteers deliver the hot meals, regardless of their health permits, insisting that they could feed them cold sandwiches.
I doubt his view changed much in past year or so
muh spanking
Told them that they should send any donations they want to make to Red Cross headquarters to be processed.
i believe Molyneux became pro-state sovereingty since last year though
lol but thats what makes him such a saint... come on.... talk about the NAP in practice on the front lines of the future generations
ya, Moly has changed a lot since the the Trump phenomenon
like i said, he's hit and miss
And before you try recommending me the Aynd rand guy , I listened to him for hours as well. As I said, it all sounds nice on paper but I don't have faith in it. Sorry