did we really expect anything less

i'm sorry i ruin everything everywhere i go :c

Senny, it doesn't look like you can use that. <:SMILESWEAT6:403540174069432320>

!slowmode off

Also according to the wehraboos I'm close enough to white to marry white wahmen, which means that in reverse Nuremberg I'm probably not allowed to reproduce

apparently my best friend is white enough to have white privalege, he was told so by a 1/4 black woman

the entertaining bit is that he's 0% white. full-blooded arab.

lol just goes to show how ignorant some people are

and enforces my point that race/skin color doesnt fucking matter

Like how Jontron is apparently white despite being Persian

quantum minorities. PoC until observed to disagree with you

yeah it's definitely because he hates the islams and also obama

and da jooz

Tim Pool should be replaced with Tim Cool ™, radicool far-left verified twitter jurno. Prove me wrong ☕

Jim Cool is better

Yeah, he needs to upload more skateboarding. He can just skateboard while discussing he news so he doesn't alienate his old audience

was this a cover up?
https://www.sfgate.com/crime/article/BART-takeover-robbery-50-to-60-teens-swarm-11094745.php
https://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2017/07/09/bart-withholding-surveillance-videos-of-crime-to-avoid-stereotypes/

Wasnt there another city that was doing the same thing?

Withholding videos of crimes becuase they feared it would make people racist

ive heard that kinda thingcoming out of europe but this is the only time ive heard of it here

I heard about it a while ago

but i feel like this is a bigger story than anyone is giving it credit for, a 50+ person train robbery

that should have been a huuuuge story

Should be... But it's California where such thing is legal

Why do you think they lowered so many felonies to misdemeanors, such as identity theft.

hey @Timcast im putting a huge massive argument here for you because ive been watching your podcast today and i guess i got a bit triggered by a pretty insignifigant tangent that gets brought up in it about race as a social construct. i know it was brought up by your guest and it wasent the point of the video so its ok that you didint go to far into it but in my hope to keep you well informed on topics im going to fill you in on some key information that really doesent support that idea. now personally regardless of all this information i agree with you that race should not mean much for federal or even state policy, id really only ever argue for policys around race to be used in the medical field or education where these distinct differences between us manifest in a different that disparages groups who are held to the same standard as everyone else.

to begin national geographic isint a reliable source of scientific information anymore, it hasent been for 20 years, but beyond there there are huge huge problems with the assertion that theres no way to differentiate between race. phenotypically there is as pointed out in your podcast, but also genetically its very well studied and being even more studied now that race is determined by genes because ALL phenotypical characteristics of an organism without physical damage are determined genetically. not only that but phenotypical differences discribe more than just your macroscopic differences of skin color, height, hair, ect. phenotypical differences discribe how your body functions down to a cellular level which manifest behavural and medical differences between distinct population groups. lactose tolerence, wet/dry earwax, countless genetic disorders are all traits of a certain genetic leniage which are manifested by a biology predetermined by your genes and those genes have to be different in order for some populations to manifest them while others do not. below are some articles that back this up which give information on the actual genetic study of different races if your interested, ive tl;drd the first one

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/epdf/10.1111/ahg.12251?author_access_token=f2zin36v2YrNgFfKQHvgrota6bR2k8jH0KrdpFOxC67dd_uyeReVHbWDVkzMFxMBys8p0aqqN3WAiGTxtRo6gBBWjAZjLoAV8v6t731-OKjHMC0WW8sU1rX8Ij8AmMm6

tdlr; this article is talking about something related to disease risk factors using thousands upon thousands of genomes to catagorize that risk factor and then comparing that risk factor between the 3 big genetic groups of europeans, asians, and africans and finding that theres differences in the risk factors the wide array of genomes they studied between each of the population groups. basicly europeans having different disease risk factors than asians, and both having different risk factors than africans

more examples
https://www.wired.com/2010/09/the-depression-map-genes-culture-serotonin-and-a-side-of-pathogens/
and
more examples
https://www.nature.com/articles/ncomms15694

this may also interest you if youd like to see some genetic information on inteligence predictibility https://twitter.com/antonioregalado/status/980846423670427648
and this video about how IQ actually is a thing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_O758GJWKs

Yeah I didn't quite get how the assertion that phenotypes were real but there was no genetic component to race could be squared

But I also didn't have time to listen to the whole podcast. Was waiting til I got home

yeah the intro provoked me to watch the whole thing, you dont get a whole lot more from it after that but tim does seem a bit like it might be more than just a social construct

I think it's where we draw the line between one race or another that is often a social construct

i actually look at race more as an architecture of taxonomy more so than a social construct

it discribes the groups of historical isolation to specific geographic regions over a vast period of time where natural selection favored certain traits for survival over others that acts as the backdrop to the mechanism of the diversion of species into new species from a common ancestor

@Arch-Fiend

1) What is the definition of race in a biological context?
1a) Is it different than ethnicity?
2b) Is it the same as the colloquial term race
1c) What percentage of your gene do you need to be in order to be considered a member of that "race"? or are you a member of all races that you have genes from?

2) I have the gene for red hair, although it only manifests in co-dominance in my beard. This is evidence of my Irish ancestry and can be traced back to i believe the Nordic areas. Would this not make me a different race than most other Europeans?
2a) if so, would this not mean that i would not be a member of the "white race" (i.e. Germany-France-Britain area ancestry ) as typically laid out by those who usually care about race?

3) If we put this into context, the race they were talking about is that which is generally broken down into: Black, White, Asian, Jew, and sometimes Hispanic. Those all cover very different sizes of populations and varying sizes or geographical differences inside each subsets: i.e. all of Africa is black, all of Asia is Asian minus russia, jews come from a very specific area in the middle east, and white is all of europe + russia. So with this context, do those races actually exist on equal levels of a hierarchy? Or are they socially constructed by mix and matching various levels of the hierarchy to make up new arbitrary classifications?

lots of people have a misconception that all groups of people are derived from current african racial genetic groups but in actuality whats truly happened is that were all decendent from A african racial genetic group, 2 infact, one which seporated from africa at a much later point than the one that most of us are related to, and sense then the genome has evolved in many many different contexts including those present in africa so that we are more related to the genetic makeup groups commonly associated with certain geographys that at a later time had less migration into them by other humans due to the domination of teritory by the occuptation of human groups

@Grenade123 the socially constructed element of race is defined at where you choose to begin discribing where the race diverts from both its ancestors and its contemporarys. thus when you define a race its then your own choice to do so. were only able to describe different species because different species can not breed with one another generally but to define them genetically sometimes they are more genetically similar to eachother than other creatures who can breed with eachother than those which cannot sometimes. this is why i beleive phenotype can not be completely writen off the table for defining differences between both species and races (more scientificly accurate term a subspecies). ultimately we define these arbitrations of reality and find meaning and mechanical order where it makes since to us and is seemingly consistant with regularity. i believe what we see in race is a gradual adaptation to different envirnmental contexts by our species over tens of thousands of years at a very quick pace due to the extreme success that is found each time a useful trait emerged in our species.

and yeah race is different than ethnicity because ethnicity is actually a social construct by definition and not discribed by biology but rather how different groups of people associate themselves to a group through culture, phenotype, and proximity

lots of people want to conflate the 2 as being the same but race and ethnicity were actually created to be different terms that work on different mechanisms to define themselves

I think there is overlap of two entirely unrelated ideas that are falling under the same term.

perhaps the most scientificly accurate way to define races is to define them when genetic traits become the successful genetic trait in a populate till it becomes the dominant one purely due to natural selection