Message from @Dr.Wol
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But it is incorrect t oassume you are the average
You can't just generate money
It needs resources tied to it
I agree, it would obviously be a tax.
which means that the rich
Yes the rich would be the ones taxed, but at some point soon we will have a vast number of people who though no fault of their own won't be able to have jobs at all.
yes, but that doesn't suddenly justify UBI, because UBI will be coming from those who achieve more than UBI as income
How does that not justify UBI.
What other means would they have to make money.
That is also based on the assumption that there is enough produced to go around.
they wouldn't, thats why i'm against the concept of implementing it until we can sustain it
That is money that will be spent on utilities, food and shelter.
UBI works, when you can replace everyones job, but at that point, it is redundant
And the prices of all three will rise to match the UBI
IF you don't do it well before then, you get a bunch of angry uneployed men with guns.
UBI is not taxable, because its tax money,
Meaning the huge population that needs it, can't pay into the system
Right.
Which then leads to it having to be taken from anyone who earns more than the UBI,
Meaning that people who would "barely" make it over, would just stop working,
Why work 40 hours per week for that extra 200 dollars
To be honest, my issue will be with the society change
Why work if you are already provided for?
no, that's not what UBI is.
No everyone would be eligible for UBI.
which means that all non-workers essentially become venezuelans, minus the food-issue
Its "Universal" Basic income,
that means everyone
Okay, when the unemployment rates hit 15% or 20% what would you do?
you'd make it worse if you don't make it universal, because then you'll get exactly what i said
People who are barely over it, will stop working, and those jobs suddenly become critical need
What should you do then?
when it hits 20%?
Start a war
its how we have done it before
At 20%, youd need a revolution
War is a great way to reduce the population
THe situation would be bad at that point
Your solution to unemployment it's the draft?
no
Well a war or a purge
my solution to unemployment is WAR
Who are you starting a war with?
The unemployed?
the unemployed people
Well, theres this called war economics.
And the concept that conflict will drive produce and consumption