Message from @RyeNorth

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2018-08-07 00:40:56 UTC  

3. Also, having a *commun*ity determine who gets what seems a little... red...

2018-08-07 00:41:09 UTC  

well theres nothing vague about the irs calling you and threatening to send the police for not paying for the police.

i agree that the government is a mind concept, but the problem is you have specific people with titles doing engaging in physical force due to their beliefs.

2018-08-07 00:41:38 UTC  

I'm a reformist, not an anarchist.

2018-08-07 00:41:50 UTC  

You won't get a disagreement from me when you say the system's broken

2018-08-07 00:41:57 UTC  

yes. but without the majority agreeing to be ruled by physical force, there is no state.

2018-08-07 00:42:08 UTC  

without the military, or the police, politicians have no power

2018-08-07 00:42:25 UTC  

right yes, i agree

2018-08-07 00:42:42 UTC  

But politicians have power because we have given it to them.

2018-08-07 00:42:43 UTC  

and if the people decide they no longer like the military or the police, they can and will fight. is it pretty? no. is it the best option, usually not.

2018-08-07 00:42:57 UTC  

We, as a society, can choose who we send forward.

2018-08-07 00:42:57 UTC  

but this is where moral and rightful an-cap arguments, imo, fall flat

2018-08-07 00:43:14 UTC  

The mere fact that we've been so neglectful in our choices

2018-08-07 00:43:16 UTC  

or the military and police can decide not to fight, it doesnt absolutely have to be a violent change

2018-08-07 00:43:22 UTC  

Is proof enough that the common will is not enough to rule.

2018-08-07 00:43:48 UTC  

an-caps have great arguments for lessoning government involvement.

2018-08-07 00:44:10 UTC  

NatSocs have great arguments for reducing crime rate.

2018-08-07 00:44:18 UTC  

Just because it's a great argument, doesn't mean it's right.

2018-08-07 00:44:25 UTC  

do they thought?

2018-08-07 00:44:33 UTC  

a violent overthrow wouldnt last anyways

2018-08-07 00:45:26 UTC  

An ethnic nationalist would say that certain ethnicities are more prone to violence and should be dealt with accordingly.

2018-08-07 00:45:47 UTC  

Strictly speaking, this WOULD lead to a decrease in crime

2018-08-07 00:45:57 UTC  

But there's a core issue that you could address instead.

2018-08-07 00:46:06 UTC  

Cultural, of course.

2018-08-07 00:46:09 UTC  

you know what would get ride of more crime? removing all people at the same economic level

2018-08-07 00:46:25 UTC  

Elimination of the lower class?

2018-08-07 00:46:42 UTC  

isn't that what removing most of the ethnic minorities would do?

2018-08-07 00:46:46 UTC  

Elimination based on IQ?

2018-08-07 00:46:52 UTC  

Not entirely, though

2018-08-07 00:47:03 UTC  

no, and therefore there would still be crime

2018-08-07 00:47:13 UTC  

Because there are plenty of blacks who have broken through the supposed barriers

2018-08-07 00:47:28 UTC  

Hell, Asians are higher earners than Whites.

2018-08-07 00:47:42 UTC  

an inconvenient fact, you'll notice Asians are omitted by any NatSoc graph.

2018-08-07 00:47:57 UTC  

more over, you'd lose more beneficial people by removing all people not of a certain ethnic class that just removing most poor people

2018-08-07 00:48:18 UTC  

So if you eliminated people based on earnings, you'd be less diverse to be sure, but you wouldn't be ethnically pure

2018-08-07 00:48:30 UTC  

you'd also have really backed up sewers.

2018-08-07 00:48:32 UTC  

no, but we were talking about crime

2018-08-07 00:48:57 UTC  

Alright, let's trace that back then

2018-08-07 00:49:00 UTC  

statistically, most violent criminals come from either poor or broken families

2018-08-07 00:49:18 UTC  

Eliminate blacks - lower crime, white ethno-nationalism, massively bloody hands

2018-08-07 00:49:35 UTC  

with ethnicity, you are more likely to leave a murder or thief and deport a doctor

2018-08-07 00:49:59 UTC  

Eliminate Lower Earners - Lower Crime, Less diversity, Trash Pickup Delayed indefinitely.