how bloody was the industrial revolution?

tru

i guess its the matter of type

hundreds of thousands.

i mean in a sense it WAS bloody

cause no labor laws and stuff

maybe you cant think of the bloodless revolutions because they were silent and not really emphasized

https://www.quora.com/How-many-workers-died-during-the-first-Industrial-Revolution-in-Great-Britain-Germany-and-France-due-to-unsafe-working-conditions-poverty-related-diseases-and-police-repression-of-protest-movements

the crypto-anarchists believes that technology will drive the anarchist change and that it's inevitable that the state will lose governing control over the masses

Sounds like a load...

Also ive wanted to ask about justice in anarcho societies

Innocent until proven guilty i assume

and some ancaps believes that agorism is the path to change, to just make it very easy for people to evade trading laws

But what replaces the court system

One could consider aspects of the Renaissance and the Enlightenment a bloodless revolution

but at the same time the ideals of those periods where used to justify war and stuff sooooo

well if you read the crypto anarchist manifesto, they do have some interesting points, but yeah i have doubts too

Those are revolutions in thinking, not political revolutions

which means they cause more significant change

Not relocation of power

as someone whose essentially larped an anarchic situation, a state of some sort always ends up forming anyways

political revolutions just seem to replace bad guys with other bad guys and everything goes back to the same after a couple of months

Expand upon that lago

people like to organize

Anarchy requires the removal of Hierarchy in any form it takes.

Hierarchy is a law of nature.

nah, maybe ancom

ancaps are pro hierarchy, ironically

thats why ancoms dont think we are real anarchists

So how do you control the hierarchy?

It's also the idea that working together we can accomplish more that what we could alone, I'd say that's another reason states form

how do you keep it from polarizing and/or becoming tyrannical?

I participate in a Airsoft Apocalypse game twice a year and despite the perceived anarchy of the game world, players always organize into groups, settlements, and factions with at least basic rules among members.

first step: dont believe in the legitimacy of the tyranny

second step: dont participate in the tyranny

The most successful groups also maintain hierarchies

Hide Tyrannical threads, ignore tyrannical post, do not reply to tyrannical posters?

Im a higher up of a merchant coalition in this game

well organize voluntarily to defend against them if they attack you physically

So then when do we make a jump from a state to a tyranny?

But what if they just refuse to acknowledge the legitimacy of your claims?