Message from @Lagomaster24

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2018-08-07 01:25:12 UTC  

well the harder i would push my beliefs on people, the bloodier it would be i suppose

2018-08-07 01:25:49 UTC  

Rarely is there ever a revolution that occurs without bloodshed.

2018-08-07 01:26:01 UTC  

I mean, I guess Canada got theirs peacefully just by asking politely...

2018-08-07 01:26:16 UTC  

not a revolution

2018-08-07 01:26:30 UTC  

that was essentially just a break off

2018-08-07 01:26:31 UTC  

A relocation or elimination of power.

2018-08-07 01:26:32 UTC  

how bloody was the industrial revolution?

2018-08-07 01:26:51 UTC  

tru

2018-08-07 01:26:59 UTC  

i guess its the matter of type

2018-08-07 01:27:08 UTC  

hundreds of thousands.

2018-08-07 01:27:13 UTC  

i mean in a sense it WAS bloody

2018-08-07 01:27:25 UTC  

cause no labor laws and stuff

2018-08-07 01:27:39 UTC  

maybe you cant think of the bloodless revolutions because they were silent and not really emphasized

2018-08-07 01:28:20 UTC  

the crypto-anarchists believes that technology will drive the anarchist change and that it's inevitable that the state will lose governing control over the masses

2018-08-07 01:28:42 UTC  

Sounds like a load...

2018-08-07 01:28:50 UTC  

Also ive wanted to ask about justice in anarcho societies

2018-08-07 01:28:57 UTC  

Innocent until proven guilty i assume

2018-08-07 01:29:01 UTC  

and some ancaps believes that agorism is the path to change, to just make it very easy for people to evade trading laws

2018-08-07 01:29:05 UTC  

But what replaces the court system

2018-08-07 01:29:15 UTC  

One could consider aspects of the Renaissance and the Enlightenment a bloodless revolution

2018-08-07 01:29:44 UTC  

but at the same time the ideals of those periods where used to justify war and stuff sooooo

2018-08-07 01:29:44 UTC  

well if you read the crypto anarchist manifesto, they do have some interesting points, but yeah i have doubts too

2018-08-07 01:30:00 UTC  

Those are revolutions in thinking, not political revolutions

2018-08-07 01:30:16 UTC  

which means they cause more significant change

2018-08-07 01:30:16 UTC  

Not relocation of power

2018-08-07 01:30:44 UTC  

as someone whose essentially larped an anarchic situation, a state of some sort always ends up forming anyways

2018-08-07 01:30:53 UTC  

political revolutions just seem to replace bad guys with other bad guys and everything goes back to the same after a couple of months

2018-08-07 01:30:58 UTC  

Expand upon that lago

2018-08-07 01:31:00 UTC  

people like to organize

2018-08-07 01:31:37 UTC  

Anarchy requires the removal of Hierarchy in any form it takes.

2018-08-07 01:31:51 UTC  

Hierarchy is a law of nature.

2018-08-07 01:31:53 UTC  

nah, maybe ancom

2018-08-07 01:32:04 UTC  

ancaps are pro hierarchy, ironically

2018-08-07 01:32:17 UTC  

thats why ancoms dont think we are real anarchists

2018-08-07 01:32:17 UTC  

So how do you control the hierarchy?

2018-08-07 01:32:18 UTC  

It's also the idea that working together we can accomplish more that what we could alone, I'd say that's another reason states form

2018-08-07 01:32:29 UTC  

how do you keep it from polarizing and/or becoming tyrannical?

2018-08-07 01:32:29 UTC  

I participate in a Airsoft Apocalypse game twice a year and despite the perceived anarchy of the game world, players always organize into groups, settlements, and factions with at least basic rules among members.

2018-08-07 01:32:51 UTC  

first step: dont believe in the legitimacy of the tyranny

2018-08-07 01:32:59 UTC  

second step: dont participate in the tyranny