It wasn't what I was doing either, I understand how it could seem that way though. 😬

Bulba: wasn't accusing you of doing that, was just saying I wasn't going to read it. 😛

Okay, no worries.
What do you guys mean by AnCap?

Anarchy plus Capitalism

I.E. your standard issued Anarchy starter set

with a Private Property expansion bundled in.

By an cap I mean corporations control everything IE belgian congo

AKA - no hands zone

That's a mostly unfair comparison.

Mostly.

by ancap i mean the private sector can do better than government employees who dont have to worry about losing customers if they do a bad job

Oh, absolutely!

Okay

We're on the same page, there! That doesn't mean there's not a place for the State.

hey if you can have a state without taxation thats 1/2 goals completed

You can't have it without Taxation at all

why not though?

For the same reason you can't have free roads.

cant you just have user fees or whatever they were called

i heard andrew napolitano say that original government didnt really have taxes, they just charged for land use

I mean, yeah. You're mostly not wrong.

The key of opposition is taxation without representation

Something you're opposed to as well, I'm sure.

That's why a top-down federal government is all wrong.

The (U.S.) states are nations in their own right, with their own constitutions.

would you agree with abolishing the federal government altogether and just have the states?

The only stipulation is that the US constitution is above it, to protect the individual.

If that were the ultimate decision, I wouldn't be entirely opposed.

nice

There's already a strong secessionist movement within my state.

And if they got the vote across tomorrow, I'd side with them.

if that would happen, and one of the states were allowed to be ancap, then i wouldnt really need anything more

I bet you could convince Montana.

lol right

i have no desire to convert the world, i just want to be left alone really

Most people do.

But assuming that your solution will eliminate all problems as such is by definition utopian.

not at all, there will always be problems

i just think it would be slightly less shitty than government

government is a really low bar

But government would form anyway, you've acknowledged this.