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2018-08-07 03:51:18 UTC  

At least from the flag

2018-08-07 03:51:22 UTC  

laissez faire capitalism is just free markets, state capitalism and welfare capitalism is something else

2018-08-07 03:52:02 UTC  

The State requires Hierarchy.

2018-08-07 03:52:06 UTC  

but private ownership of the means of production may be enough, i dunno, it depends on the context

2018-08-07 03:52:11 UTC  

Communism demands that the hierarchy be demolished

2018-08-07 03:52:20 UTC  

And that all are equal.

2018-08-07 03:52:26 UTC  

You sure its not just the class system?

2018-08-07 03:52:34 UTC  

Kill the oppressors.

2018-08-07 03:52:35 UTC  

Pretty damn.

2018-08-07 03:52:37 UTC  

"and all are equal."

2018-08-07 03:52:51 UTC  

I was sure they made everyone equal by cutting down the taller trees

2018-08-07 03:53:00 UTC  

Well sure. That's part of the problem.

2018-08-07 03:53:06 UTC  

Their goal is no hierarchy

2018-08-07 03:53:11 UTC  

but in order to achieve that lack of hierarchy*

2018-08-07 03:53:29 UTC  

They need to organize

2018-08-07 03:53:33 UTC  

SOMEONE has to call the shots.

2018-08-07 03:53:39 UTC  

and regulate

2018-08-07 03:53:43 UTC  

yeah im really confused about ancom

2018-08-07 03:53:52 UTC  

Not even "someone calling the shots" they need to organize and regulate uniformity.

2018-08-07 03:54:10 UTC  

Basically, this.

2018-08-07 03:54:14 UTC  

In order to reach that *golden state* of ***equality***

2018-08-07 03:54:25 UTC  

Which is going to be rather difficult with the LGBTQUIOP stuff

2018-08-07 03:54:34 UTC  

anarchy communism is possible in small groups

2018-08-07 03:54:38 UTC  

Ancap is very different

2018-08-07 03:54:47 UTC  

does not scale at all though

2018-08-07 03:54:49 UTC  

What about people in that group who are taller than others

2018-08-07 03:54:50 UTC  

But it's really not that different.

2018-08-07 03:55:06 UTC  

As was stated, in an Ancap society, your property isn't defined by you.

2018-08-07 03:55:18 UTC  

It is very different, even to it's core principles.

2018-08-07 03:55:36 UTC  

By the way I've debated plenty of communists who unfortunately denied everything you just defined about communism.

2018-08-07 03:55:43 UTC  

Because it's impossible to defend.

2018-08-07 03:55:54 UTC  

See, that's the thing.

2018-08-07 03:55:59 UTC  

ancom in small groups is just playing Minecraft with your friends

2018-08-07 03:56:00 UTC  

I wasn't defending it.

2018-08-07 03:56:05 UTC  

lol

2018-08-07 03:56:08 UTC  

I was condemning it.

2018-08-07 03:56:15 UTC  

It's so hard to defend they deny what it even is

2018-08-07 03:56:31 UTC  

Well it works best when people have something to unite against.

2018-08-07 03:56:38 UTC  

Then again thats true for people in general.

2018-08-07 03:56:42 UTC  

Don't necessarily need to have everything equal, just sharing enough to be part of the group

2018-08-07 03:56:55 UTC  

Anyways, on the principles of how Ancap and Ancom are completely different.