Message from @Grenade123

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2018-08-07 18:30:35 UTC  

i guess you could look at it that way, but i don't. a pendulum only moves in two directions so it represents a dichotomy, so i wouldn't use that metaphor.

2018-08-07 18:31:15 UTC  

but i get that you're arguing for the ebb and flow part of the pendulum, so i see what you're saying.

2018-08-07 18:32:24 UTC  

i just think false dichotomies and middle ground fallacies is the reason the u.s. is shit

2018-08-07 18:33:05 UTC  

it depends on the context of the pendulum i guess

2018-08-07 18:35:25 UTC  

the happy center of republicrats foreign politics of ponies and rainbows

2018-08-07 18:35:39 UTC  

does a pendulum only move in 2 directions?

2018-08-07 18:36:20 UTC  

i was thinking of a grandfather clock i guess

2018-08-07 18:38:23 UTC  

a pendulum is a weight at the end of a string fixed to a point. if left to swing, at least here on earth, it will slowly move around in a circle. Each time it swings back and forth, it is never quite hitting the same spot as before as the earth rotates under it.

2018-08-07 18:39:55 UTC  

i guess each democratic and republican president are less democratic and republican than the previous one. i don't know if political parties have any principles anymore.

2018-08-07 18:40:05 UTC  

or if they ever did

2018-08-07 18:40:45 UTC  

i don't think they ever did. some candidates tow party lines better than others, but trump ran as a republican... but is he a really a republican?

2018-08-07 18:41:31 UTC  

at first i got the impression he was more republican than mainstream republicans, but now i just think he's a flip-flopper

2018-08-07 18:43:22 UTC  

people who remain devote to a party may create false dichotomies, but if you think of the political spectrum as more of a sphere, republican and democrats are like saying the west and the east.... technically the west is east of the east as the east is east of the west. its a circle, keep travelling in one direction you will end up where you started without hitting an edge. unless you draw artificial lines

2018-08-07 18:43:35 UTC  

and you can still go up or down

2018-08-07 18:44:08 UTC  

horseshoe theory

2018-08-07 18:44:11 UTC  

you have 3 dimensions you can move in that we have narrowed down to 2 vague groups

2018-08-07 18:44:45 UTC  

in a sense you could say that, head east far enough from the west coast you will end up back at the west coast

2018-08-07 18:45:05 UTC  

could you give a political real life example of this?

2018-08-07 18:45:11 UTC  

I think it's more suitable to think of them as poles

2018-08-07 18:45:22 UTC  

Rather than heading right/left

2018-08-07 18:47:24 UTC  

depends on what you mean political example? I think the fact we have a bunch of candidates that are not just exact copies of their supposed parties, and outliers who just sometimes end up on the ballot as a random party that they don't fit nicely into as proof enough that the democrats are republican split is just a 2d cross section of 3d space

2018-08-07 18:47:49 UTC  

which creates, as you have accurately pointed out, a false dichotomy.

2018-08-07 18:47:56 UTC  

it has removed an entire axis

2018-08-07 18:49:00 UTC  

haha

2018-08-07 18:49:14 UTC  

I won't daddy.

2018-08-07 18:49:22 UTC  

Everything goes into separate lines.

2018-08-07 18:49:58 UTC  

Every issue can be condensed to a yes and a no with caveats between

2018-08-07 18:50:24 UTC  

it often takes awhile to draw that specific end

2018-08-07 18:52:14 UTC  

in math, to find the volume of an object, you take basically a near infinite number of 2D cross sections along one axis and basically add up all their areas. If you look at the swinging pendulum's path, it might look like it is following a sin wave oscillation at any given point along the axis of time. However, if you actually add up all these cross sections of time, it will fill the whole graph.

2018-08-07 18:55:18 UTC  

lol

2018-08-07 19:25:27 UTC  

youtube has competitors, but nobody knows about them, because everyone is hanging out on youtube.
i think youtube screwing up is a good thing, because the competitors needs some traffic, and people could use some more options.
to complain about youtube making people unable to speak is in my mind accepting their market dominance and wanting to maintain their dominance by keeping their policies acceptible.
why not just celebrate their failure and help boycott them?

2018-08-07 23:08:12 UTC  

That's what I've been wondering about, not the boycott, but why many want to get the government involved, declare them public utilities, instead of just use their failures to bolster the competition.

2018-08-07 23:11:35 UTC  

because they are dumb

2018-08-07 23:11:42 UTC  

why else

2018-08-08 09:52:53 UTC  

Can someone explain to me why workers unions get to charge people that are not members of the union? Where is the incentive for the union to represent the workers if they don‘t have to do their job and still get paid?

2018-08-08 09:56:04 UTC  

similar reason a doctor can't tell you how much an x-ray costs.

2018-08-08 09:56:49 UTC  

bullshit.

2018-08-08 09:57:35 UTC  

Well... i don‘t get charged for x-rays so i don‘t care - not american so i don‘t know what that reference means 😉

2018-08-08 09:58:48 UTC  

because the union gets to dictate terms, because they represent a collective of individuals.

2018-08-08 09:59:44 UTC  

IE like insurance companies

2018-08-08 10:47:37 UTC  

Hmm... but do they represent the individuals if they have no incentive to do that?