Message from @RyeNorth
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I have trouble even trying to grasp the key differences on scale between what we call on a political compass 'Left' and 'Right'. It seems inaccurate as it stands.
same
and im struggling to understand why left libertarians are below the authoritarian line considering how much they usually want to regulate the market
Well, in that regard, it kind of makes sense.
You can believe in regulation of markets, but not of people.
no
markets are people
People who work in them are.
economics is another word for human action
But the corporations are not people in and of themselves.
i agree the legal definition is false, but they are a group of people ultimately
its not the building making decisions, its the people within it
a brand cant pick up a pen and write a signature on a form
You're going to have to expound on that 'Economics' synonym.
I think I'm going to challenge you on it...
economics is a description of the results of people interacting with eachother when they trade value
Alright, that's a more sound definition than I was expecting...
It's just horseshoe theory in action. As you reach 'maximum liberty' you allow for others to build up their authority, or you do so yourself to force everyone to live in the way you envision as 'free'.
I still disagree with it vaguely, but not strongly enough to argue it.
I think I see a solution to this situational quagmire in what I call personal data corporations.
You basically start a surveillance company that studies everything about you, creates a singular data resource, and parcels out data for profit.
Orwell inside out, yep
my point is, if you regulate a minimum wage for example, it means you're gonna have to send cops with guns after employers when they make agreements with workers to pay for a certain amount. the policy have to be enforced against human beings. and those human beings may not necessarily have a problem working for below minimum wage, if it makes the difference between doing something and doing nothing.
but decentralization is the only way to defang the viper in question.
I suppose it's better than the fine print surveillance we submit to on a daily basis...
either take control of your data, or someone else will
if it's a corporate resource.... whole new set of laws if someone messes with it.
expensive laws.
I'm less concerned with Minimum Wage matters in regulation.
I'm far more concerned with truth in marketing.
An authority is needed in the market to assure against scams.
See I think the theoretical solution is basic income, which is utterly impractical. Which is why data income becomes a very appealing compromise to me.
alright then you understand how left libertarians are pretty strict and dominating in that regards
And of course the collected data resource is one heck of a retirement nest egg in and of itself. I call it a Lifestream cos I'm a geek. lol
i guess i cant use the term authoritarianism if we gonna start arguing semantics
but they want to levy a lot of coercion against humans within the market place.
I understand supply chain economics enough to know why increasing a minimum wage is a bad idea
Terrible idea
if you increase the minimum wage to 15, at best, you wind up devaluing work.
Main driver of inflation, yep
at worst, you increase the cost of living proportionally or worse.
this is utilitarian arguments against it, but theres also the fact that you're simply preventing two parties to negotiate on their own terms.