It's just horseshoe theory in action. As you reach 'maximum liberty' you allow for others to build up their authority, or you do so yourself to force everyone to live in the way you envision as 'free'.

I still disagree with it vaguely, but not strongly enough to argue it.

I think I see a solution to this situational quagmire in what I call personal data corporations.

You basically start a surveillance company that studies everything about you, creates a singular data resource, and parcels out data for profit.

That sounds terrifying.

Orwell inside out, yep

my point is, if you regulate a minimum wage for example, it means you're gonna have to send cops with guns after employers when they make agreements with workers to pay for a certain amount. the policy have to be enforced against human beings. and those human beings may not necessarily have a problem working for below minimum wage, if it makes the difference between doing something and doing nothing.

but decentralization is the only way to defang the viper in question.

I suppose it's better than the fine print surveillance we submit to on a daily basis...

either take control of your data, or someone else will

if it's a corporate resource.... whole new set of laws if someone messes with it.

expensive laws.

I'm less concerned with Minimum Wage matters in regulation.

I'm far more concerned with truth in marketing.

An authority is needed in the market to assure against scams.

See I think the theoretical solution is basic income, which is utterly impractical. Which is why data income becomes a very appealing compromise to me.

alright then you understand how left libertarians are pretty strict and dominating in that regards

And of course the collected data resource is one heck of a retirement nest egg in and of itself. I call it a Lifestream cos I'm a geek. lol

i guess i cant use the term authoritarianism if we gonna start arguing semantics
but they want to levy a lot of coercion against humans within the market place.

I understand supply chain economics enough to know why increasing a minimum wage is a bad idea

Terrible idea

if you increase the minimum wage to 15, at best, you wind up devaluing work.

Main driver of inflation, yep

at worst, you increase the cost of living proportionally or worse.

this is utilitarian arguments against it, but theres also the fact that you're simply preventing two parties to negotiate on their own terms.

I mean, sure.

The Utilitarian approach I listed is the one that people think of the least.

Does truth play a part, though?

How acceptable is deception and to what level?

But the result is that the market needs to be able to assign the value of work to determine if that work is worth it.

yeah i feel privileged that i can use either approach

Which leads in to your own argument.

There's also the tangential behemoth coming off of that

At what level does deception become aggression? If I hand you cyanide laced lemonade but didn't lace it myself, I am simply deceiving you.

That there's also currently a push in certain areas for undocumented workers being given a free pass

at which point they're able to compete in a way that a law abiding citizen can't.

Arguing for higher minimum wage and legal amnesty for undocumented employment simultaneously is disingenuous at best.

i think selling foods without giving info about toxins is without a doubt poisoning people is pretty clear aggression, imo. in other words it violates the nap.
but if there is info provided, you can sell toxic foods like tobacco or alcohol and people can posion themselves willingly however much they want.

See, I can agree with that perspective.

but its of course complicated to figure out if cusomers are reasonably informed, so there will be a lot of grayzones and edge cases

I mean, I ALSO consider it a bit annoying seeing these 'State of California' messages on shit.