Message from @NativeInterface

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2018-09-09 03:08:11 UTC  

And of course the collected data resource is one heck of a retirement nest egg in and of itself. I call it a Lifestream cos I'm a geek. lol

2018-09-09 03:08:20 UTC  

i guess i cant use the term authoritarianism if we gonna start arguing semantics
but they want to levy a lot of coercion against humans within the market place.

2018-09-09 03:08:22 UTC  

I understand supply chain economics enough to know why increasing a minimum wage is a bad idea

2018-09-09 03:08:58 UTC  

Terrible idea

2018-09-09 03:08:59 UTC  

if you increase the minimum wage to 15, at best, you wind up devaluing work.

2018-09-09 03:09:10 UTC  

Main driver of inflation, yep

2018-09-09 03:09:26 UTC  

at worst, you increase the cost of living proportionally or worse.

2018-09-09 03:09:42 UTC  

this is utilitarian arguments against it, but theres also the fact that you're simply preventing two parties to negotiate on their own terms.

2018-09-09 03:10:14 UTC  

I mean, sure.

2018-09-09 03:11:59 UTC  

The Utilitarian approach I listed is the one that people think of the least.

2018-09-09 03:12:05 UTC  

Does truth play a part, though?

2018-09-09 03:12:27 UTC  

How acceptable is deception and to what level?

2018-09-09 03:12:29 UTC  

But the result is that the market needs to be able to assign the value of work to determine if that work is worth it.

2018-09-09 03:12:30 UTC  

yeah i feel privileged that i can use either approach

2018-09-09 03:12:37 UTC  

Which leads in to your own argument.

2018-09-09 03:13:26 UTC  

There's also the tangential behemoth coming off of that

2018-09-09 03:13:39 UTC  

At what level does deception become aggression? If I hand you cyanide laced lemonade but didn't lace it myself, I am simply deceiving you.

2018-09-09 03:13:50 UTC  

That there's also currently a push in certain areas for undocumented workers being given a free pass

2018-09-09 03:14:02 UTC  

at which point they're able to compete in a way that a law abiding citizen can't.

2018-09-09 03:15:05 UTC  

Arguing for higher minimum wage and legal amnesty for undocumented employment simultaneously is disingenuous at best.

2018-09-09 03:16:46 UTC  

i think selling foods without giving info about toxins is without a doubt poisoning people is pretty clear aggression, imo. in other words it violates the nap.
but if there is info provided, you can sell toxic foods like tobacco or alcohol and people can posion themselves willingly however much they want.

2018-09-09 03:17:29 UTC  

See, I can agree with that perspective.

2018-09-09 03:17:37 UTC  

but its of course complicated to figure out if cusomers are reasonably informed, so there will be a lot of grayzones and edge cases

2018-09-09 03:18:39 UTC  

I mean, I ALSO consider it a bit annoying seeing these 'State of California' messages on shit.

2018-09-09 03:19:14 UTC  

Working in an auto parts store, I subject myself to materials known to the State of California to cause birth defects on a daily basis.

2018-09-09 03:19:50 UTC  

So, there's got to be some middle ground on that.

2018-09-09 03:20:07 UTC  

Here we have it, though

2018-09-09 03:20:08 UTC  

i think what the middle ground is will always be up for debate

2018-09-09 03:20:56 UTC  

Like all areas, my answer is more data

2018-09-09 03:21:06 UTC  

The company should have the _Responsibility_ to inform, while the individual should have the _right_ to ignore the warnings.

2018-09-09 03:21:14 UTC  

if both parties own a recording of the transaction and whatnot

2018-09-09 03:21:34 UTC  

yup thats a good way to put it i think, rye

2018-09-09 03:21:36 UTC  

legalism becomes much simpler

2018-09-09 03:22:13 UTC  

I don't like Lawyers and Insurance companies running everything.

2018-09-09 03:22:25 UTC  

If you want to look at the ruling class, look no further than that.

2018-09-09 03:23:14 UTC  

but they operate under a monopoly that has perceived public legitimacy, so thats why i personally don't think it's a good metric

2018-09-09 03:23:38 UTC  

Lawyers and insurance companies?

2018-09-09 03:24:07 UTC  

yeah, some insurance companies gets to use government force to make people have to buy them by law

2018-09-09 03:24:27 UTC  

thats quite a way to secure your profits

2018-09-09 03:24:27 UTC  

Well, yeah,

2018-09-09 03:24:43 UTC  

I mean... here where I live