this shouldn't be a big shock

all the more reason to dig a bit in to why it's a bad rep, don't you think?

the Red Scare

most of current parents either where kids during it, or kids of them

most of that area are viewed as still former Soviet Countries, or next to ones, and still not recovered enough to be considered "safe"

so its a "hands off, let them be them and see what happens" kind of deal

Most places outside of close US allies are viewed as having a bad rap

even Italy has a bad rap given its still a bit unstable

well considering that antifa in US and UK are waving soviet flags, Cortez was actually elected shadily and communism and socialism is no longer a dirty word in the media... while poland protests with this: https://i.redditmedia.com/K8q1WiWj5rfy48OCO0zdqb_3hXwKoVLdhjqlFV8Mb_o.jpg?w=960&s=1f9df15235432a3a050b7a1821ba9ec1

where did i say Americans are smart?

lmao

They look at Sweden, and go "we want that", then call it socialism, so people look for socialism, and think its great.

Americans are smart man. What's concerning is the world's culture and vibrancy is in the west and especially the US. I can be smug about knowing stuff Americans don't know, but then I actually see that there's nobody at all looking around and at least being curious. Perhaps just Sargon, and only a bit

I disagree, Americans aren't smart. -_-

we are smart? fuck, the world that dumb?

Besides, I'm not talking about average Americans. There are those that do and they usually buy property and live here now. I'm looking at journalists and people in the actuall bussiness that should be doing it

Most Americans don't even know how their own government works, let alone a form of it like Communism.

Russia and China == communism

but cite Carl Marx? "that sounds nice"

look at the people pushing socialism! These people went to college! they are the "intellectual" class

As was said, those in the business of investigating politics aren't interested in opposing communism

Smart is a very broad term. Jordan B Peterson actually spoke about it on the JRE - people are way more curious and smarted than most give them credit for. I disagree that Americans are not smart. Just hurded in to certain viewpoints, and good on Tim to actually trying to circle around that imo

We've got a problem: Back in the USSR days, they actually initiated a program to turn our education system commie.

It's been admitted to on several accounts.

So these journalists that go to a decent college and get hired

They've had their heads filled with propaganda

And it's only getting worse.

i'd love to travel more, but 2 weeks vacation gets eaten up quickly just trying to stay in touch with fam, yet alone getting a flight overseas on my budget

He's trying to uncuck the left.

it doesn't help that America is like the size of Europe, so go a little easy on not looking outside the world much, we have to go a bit of a waze to find something not American.

(and then we get there and look for mcdonalds)

Grenade, you know the reason for that.

@RyeNorth , the thing about socialism was that it was acutually very effective in healthcare, education, housing, food production and benefits. That's not really a downside of socialism

I've discussed that reason with you before, I believe.

what, reason for which? looking for mcdonalds?

'finding places not american'

idk did we?

50 nations.

The United States and the European Union are remarkably similar.

Except that the US has a direct representative.

yeah i know, which is why its usually a good comparison to do US vs EU not US vs any one EU nation

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