Message from @Grenade123
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The EU doesn't get direct representatioon in it's government
it probably won't. It is expected to shift back to a trade union.
we'll see how brexit goes, WHENEVER THE FUCK THAT WILL BE
the Brits are screwed. Griffix made a video on brexit a month ago if you guys follow her. She's dutch, very smart.
As an Eastern European I'm inherantly cinical about politics as most of my countrymen. We just learned to apeal to bussiness to force the government to be as libertarian as possible. Regardless of what we end up as a political system, we're no longer seeing left or right, we look at who's most libertarian of them all.
Theresa May is a traitor to Great Britain.
Just putting that out there.
if they go with the Chequers deal, which i don't see how they can get around their leadership, they are fucked
i'm kinda serious that the US should start pulling out troops as a counter.
Hah!
let Europe repeat history
I've been saying for a LONG time that the left/right walls are breaking down.
That what matters is Authoritarian vs. Libertarian
lets watch the Spanish, French, English wars start up again
remind them how "civilized" they really are
There is already the scallop war.
well, hope you live to mature politically in your society @RyeNorth - Eastern Europe's already there for a decade or so
US can sell weapons and get rich off Europe's want to kill one another
and we've learned it the hard way, believe me....
I think we're actually moving that way already...
/s
apparently took us less time than that to forget why communism was bad
It didn't happen to us.
you never knew why communism was bad Granade
I mean, if you'd like to enlighten us, go for it, but My argument has always been that the utopian goal that is the objective of communism never happens, because dissenters to the goal will always need to be eliminated, meaning that an authoritarian regime is required to oversee it, and that all powerful regime will never want to release their power. It's a vacuum, and nature always abhors a vacuum.
What you end up with is massive amounts of death, freedom being eliminated, and power-mad dictatorships overseeing the whole thing without feeling.
It still exists in plain sight in North Korea.
This is objectively and historically not consistent (although authoritarian systems do tend to open the floor to shining examples). I can speak for my country and my parents and grandparent's experience - I'm from Bulgaria. We had a successful financial and society driven socialism. It way way way to broad and somebody probably needs to do a documentary about it, since I definately won't be able to type it all down. The day-to-day reality of a socialist system is not without it's merits. You are absolutely ensured you will have housing. It will also depend on how many children you have and receive the appropreate property. You will be given a car per family of 2 or more with a small tax (1 month's salary), food is calculated to be enough, so that you could have food on the table (it's what planned economy is for), you get state sponsored vacations on the seaside, mountain resorts, etc. The government finds you a job, so unemployment is practically zero, if there's no job for you, you still get a government salary, list goes on. As Tim mentioned in the video today, yes, the party does not tolerate decent, but nobody decented. The story about a woman being taken away - it could happen if there are other reports, and there will surely be some connections to show that it was a lie.
at least in a non-Ukrane one, since Ukrane was an absorbed state. The main reason socialism was bad and horrifying is it suffacated art, it stomped out ambition and it was traded in influence, rather than anything else.
this is why people revolted and wanted democracy, not because it failed financially... because contrary to popular belief, it didn't
then you were lucky to have more producers than consumers.
we exported to the USSR a huge portion of production. It was just that it wasn't a madman in charge.
same for Poland, same for Hungary, same for Romania, etc.
it wasn't a single country that did well
more did well than didn't (financially)
in the states we have a bit of an issue, a large group of people hitting ages where they cannot work, with a very small relative young population to support them.
now, i image when you don't need to worry about the cost of kids, this is less likely to happen
but i would imagine the suffocation of art is that you need to make sure you have enough extra production to ensure you can weather bumps along the way
Artistic endeavor thrived the most under systems with a noble class.
also, those are pretty small countries all things considered no?