Message from @pratel
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What do you mean by 'You'd figure people would figure it all out and decide "the enemy of my enemy" but somehow everyone misses these things.'?
I assume the alt-right is against people like Corbyn (this might actually be incorrect--according to the Nation, Richard Spencer has gone full communist lately). I also assume that the alt-right isn't too fond of Radical Islamists.
Jews aren't liked by either too much. You would figure the alt-right would want to protect the people they are mutually against.
But that clearly never happened.
ah, thanks. I get you now.
Also Jewish people do tend to stick together, and as many consider being jewish to be their identity it can lead to a certain amount of camaradarie which can lead to nepotism. Also by sticking together others view that as them choosing to be an "other" which means it's not too surprising(though not excusable) that some would consider this to be 'conspiring'.
I think if history went a little bit differently we'd see a ton of Asian conspiracy theories.
There's still time.
Asians are a much larger group.
There's clearly Asians who don't do as well. But again, most Jews don't distinguish well, so the ones who aren't doing well stick out too.
Much harder to make conspiracies about them controlling things.
That's a good point
On the other hand, whites are a rather big group and Social Justice is basically a giant conspiracy theory about whites (still) conspiring keeping everyone else down
Asian is not both a religious group and an ethnicity
Unlike Jewish
I'm not sure that's really that important.
I mean, the masons are a conspiracy theory and they aren't either.
I think the attachment of a religion does make a difference
I agree with this. You can choose not to believe in something. If you are going to say the Asians are at it, it's a purely racist remark. With Jews you've got an ideology to point at too.
Exactly
In fact, I think everything is pointed at the ideology, and the ethnicity is a scapegoat for why someone they dislike is part of it or why they don't watch with an accusation.
That doesn't matter when you don't like someone.
There is more of focus on putting other members of the ideology above other people I believe
Also they are something different, so if you encounter the "holier than thou" types, you can blame the difference in ideology as them just being smug
Cheers guys. Time for some sleep. Have a good night.
But then, Grenade, you could make the same argument about ethnic groups that tend to self-select too.
Which contradicts the religiousness is the key element.
Have there been any studies to date that show what percentage of iq/ability is due to culture and what is due to "scientific racism"?
I know Tim believes it is mostly cultural. But someone Like Stefan will pull numbers saying it is split around 20/80
That's because most of the studies he's found suggest 50% minimum. And I've found the same
However the cultural argument should also be, to lefties, racist
Which is probably why IQ is verboten
He meaning Stefan, not Tim
That said, IQ isn't perfect
I don't think IQ perfectly maps ones potential ability. It lacks nuance. However I do view it as a strong indicator for an individuals ability.
nobody says it maps perfectly to potential ability
highest number I've ever seen is like 86%
Look up studies on twins separated at birth.
That should give you some indication.
those are just case studies. There's larger studies with more data that still point towards considerable influence from gentics
Of course they're going to be case studies. I don't see there being a sudden upswell in the separated-at-birth-twins-who-subsequently-participate-in-IQ-studies numbers. 😄