Message from @Risotto
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I don't think democrats are evil per se, most democrats I know are the victims of manufactured consent
But how are you supposed to know they're absolutely false?
The allegations are old enough to have a mid life crisis.
Keep in mind, I'm not asking this for myself.
I don't have the argument yet, but we're dealing with a pillar issue.
Like abortion. A Christian will argue that you're murdering a child, a liberal would argue that a baby would bring undue suffering in themselves. That's a standoff. Both think the other perspective brings evil upon the other.
To believe Kavanaugh without an investigation is to not care about victims of rape. To believe Ford is to push guilt until innocence is proven.
The only things clear to me are that on surface, we have to presume good faith on both claims. Assuming one or the other is lying on base level is hypocrisy. Even Tim made his assessment after considering the circumstances.
He's still not calling Ford a lying bitch, but acknowledging the guilt of the political machine pushing the allegation
I'm tired of pushing back against the 👏 Believe 👏 Women 👏 people when the GOP are too weak to do it themselves.
They deserve to lose
There's a lot of subtlety if you want to keep your principles
Trump was right, they got tired of winning
But what needs to happen is
We need the right arguments.
That, and we need to actually MAKE the arguments.
A bunch of people tried to accuse Trump of raping them too. Trump didn't defeat them with superior arguments, he defeated them by winning regardless of them.
Brett and the Senate are too spineless to do the same
Roy Moore.
Trump didn't defeat them. He ignored them. Spoke past them
Effective in it's way, but that's not a solution.
Alabamans gonna Alabama.
"Roy Moore was a weirdo who promoted himself with pictures of himself riding around on a horse." So like Putin?
Works for Russians
Not so great for swing voters in southern states
Sure it is.
What good argument is there against such a vague allegation? There isn't one. The only thing you can do is ignore them and force them to drag their claims through legal courts.
The rape allegations did a LOT of damage against him.
They had their chance to take Luther Strange
Rape allegations are to be taken seriously by the police and close friends or family. Not the court of public opinion.
That ship has sailed.
Mm, well, to be honest, when I heard the horse riding pic was bad optics, that was before I knew race was a huge indicator for whether you'll vote along aprty lines
Like it or not it will happen again
Pretty much.
And again and again and again
The Left has learned how to weaponize it.
Ad infinitum
It always happens, which is why there is no argument to beat it. Your only choice is to ignore it and win on other grounds.
So maybe you have a point about the horse pic having nothing to do with his loss, it was black people making fun of the pic that left me with that impression originally.
And yes, we can keep enduring the grind, stay quiet, and keep pulling the lever