I caucused for Bernie, that's when I woke up to how fucked up the Democrats are

Tim is a lefty

Crowder can be extremely persuasive with his own use of logic.

In the 8 Values thing I'm a patriotic Centrist

rest is +/- 5%

patriotic centrist?

"Only people who love our country get to fight our government!"

Proselytizing our side is what we need.

I think that's also how I feel

Cernovich's adoption of lefty tactics is useful in the same way espionage is useful.

An army of spies doesn't get you far.

Unless you've got a proper front.

Tbh I see no issue with asking that the left follow the rules they set for others

But you have to make sure you're not just reinforcing their rules

This.

Cernovich is a self-promoting PUA, I don't care what he does

that is called holding them accountable

the problem is not letting them weasel away

If we're only making the left follow their own rules

Then we'll be held to them too

If Cernovich does something that hurts limousine liberals or cuckservatives I'll be happy about it.

That's why we need our own front covering our own principles

Cerno makes it clear why it's fucked up, we convey the alternative with consistency

well yes, you need to stick to your principles, and if one of those principles is being held accountable to your own principles, then you can start holding the left to their own principles while still claiming to follow yours.

To have a gentlemen's agreement you need two gentlemen.

"I believe in your right to say what you want, and i hold myself to that, but if you believe you shouldn't be allowed to say the things you are saying, then you should hold yourself to that standard and censor yourself. I will continue to defend your right to say what you want"

My core principle.

Don't advocate solutions I would not want to be held to.

treat others the way you want to be treated. don't order those under your command to do anything you would not do, etc

"If I were a white male I would want others to tell me how awful my privilege is, and to correct the historical injustices done by my kind by redistributing my wealth and power to the oppressed"

Mine needs better wording for conveyance

But I generally use it for general circumstances.

It's not the wording, it's the metaphysics

I don't advocate targeting based on race or religion

You have an entirely different and incompatible set of first principles.

Lest my race or religion be targeted.

Therefore no matter how you formulate your ideas they will be ineffective against progressives.

Yeah

Progressives control academia, academia controls language

There's the first problem

Quit letting people take language away

Most of the cancerous ideologies come about because someone changed a definition of a word or two.