Message from @Beemann

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2018-09-25 00:58:01 UTC  

That's post-modernism.

2018-09-25 00:58:49 UTC  

>not joining up to double-bully your enemies

2018-09-25 00:59:13 UTC  

Sure, for a time. But in the end there can be only one will.

2018-09-25 01:01:02 UTC  

>I have a gun
>you have a gun
>surely one of us must kill the other
I dont really buy that tbh

2018-09-25 01:01:45 UTC  

That's not a good analogy.

2018-09-25 01:03:09 UTC  

Let's say I'm Ben Shapiro and I say there are only two genders.

2018-09-25 01:03:23 UTC  

In what sense? That it doesn't map to a scenario that has no actual logical structure?

2018-09-25 01:03:54 UTC  

And you're some special snowflake who thinks they're a third (or fourth, or fifty-seventh gender).

2018-09-25 01:04:33 UTC  

If both of our believes actually alter reality, we can't exist simultaneously.

2018-09-25 01:04:57 UTC  

Either our beliefs have to change or we have to change.

2018-09-25 01:05:20 UTC  

Either Ben has to start believing in the 57 genders, or the snowflake conforms to one of the two genders.

2018-09-25 01:05:30 UTC  

Please explain this guys https://youtu.be/N3irid2qUVk

2018-09-25 01:05:45 UTC  

Your analogy fails because my having a gun doesn't mean you don't have a gun.

2018-09-25 01:07:25 UTC  

They actually can, because the two sides aren't using the same concept

2018-09-25 01:07:53 UTC  

Remember now, we're not just talking about words, we're talking about reality.

2018-09-25 01:07:56 UTC  

Further, reality has no basis on belief

2018-09-25 01:08:08 UTC  

Reality is altering with our belief in this scenario. Lucid dreaming.

2018-09-25 01:08:37 UTC  

Yes, and you could have both the leftist concept and the righty concept exist simultaneously, because ultimately the lefty version is meaningless

2018-09-25 01:08:38 UTC  

You're sticking to the modernist metaphysics. I'm using different metaphyiscs.

2018-09-25 01:08:59 UTC  

You have to start thinking outside the modernist box if you want to understand these creatures.

2018-09-25 01:09:41 UTC  

No, I'm saying the leftist narrative is not a necessary contradiction. If anything it's overcategorization

2018-09-25 01:10:56 UTC  

You look at how these people express "genders" and you find that we already have words that describe these concepts in the vast majority of cases

2018-09-25 01:11:11 UTC  

They just map to a binary system

2018-09-25 01:11:38 UTC  

Whereas the narrative suggests they break the system

2018-09-25 01:11:44 UTC  

Ben saying "there are only two genders" is invalidating the existence of the snowflake. It's saying 'the reality you perceive is false'.

2018-09-25 01:12:02 UTC  

No it isn't, when you boil it down to the concepts being described

2018-09-25 01:12:21 UTC  

Would u thonk that men who trans to women did it because they believe women have it better than men in western culture?

2018-09-25 01:12:47 UTC  

Think*

2018-09-25 01:13:03 UTC  

Ben is saying "there are males and females", snowflake is saying " "there are feminine men and masculine women and I'm assigning those separate categories from man and woman"

2018-09-25 01:13:19 UTC  

Where each measurable point in the gradient becomes a category

2018-09-25 01:13:20 UTC  

Thats dumb

2018-09-25 01:13:44 UTC  

Do you know why there are more feminine men now adays

2018-09-25 01:13:48 UTC  

Jesus like those people who categorize dirt

2018-09-25 01:14:06 UTC  

Beemann we're going to keep talking past each other here until you learn to throw away objective reality. Post-modernists do not believe in objective reality. You're approaching this from an extremely modernist mindset and you're not getting it. If I were a post-modernist SJW I would be REEEEEEEing right now.

2018-09-25 01:14:15 UTC  

Its because if a boy in school acts out like a boy they are given drugs for add or adhd

2018-09-25 01:14:52 UTC  

I'm going based on what they argue lol. They're not focusing on biology, but behavioural expression and mindset

2018-09-25 01:15:10 UTC  

Those drugs suppress them and have been known to cause depression down the road

2018-09-25 01:15:20 UTC  

This "you just don't understaaaand man" shit is pretentious lol

2018-09-25 01:15:34 UTC  

I live in lefty territory

2018-09-25 01:15:39 UTC  

Same

2018-09-25 01:15:42 UTC  

No, they're going on pure feeling. You are trying to categorize them based on some set of logical principles.