Message from @Atkins

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2018-09-25 00:53:55 UTC  

You must learn to love the party.

2018-09-25 00:54:10 UTC  

Straight out of Orwell.

2018-09-25 00:54:26 UTC  

yeah...i know how that worked

2018-09-25 00:54:39 UTC  

and it was a reality for some people 29 years ago

2018-09-25 00:55:46 UTC  

Think of lucid dreaming. If you know you're dreaming and you're dreaming long enough to get the hang of it you can do anything you want. Anything. Reality bends to your whim. It's pretty fucking awesome.

2018-09-25 00:56:24 UTC  

@Bo_Co By the way, to your earlier questions about denials, Walter Duranty covered the USSR for the new york times and won a pulitzer. The NYT eventually had to apologize for that.

2018-09-25 00:56:33 UTC  

Now imagine if there was another conscious mind sharing that reality who could also bend anything within it to his whim. Including you.

2018-09-25 00:57:04 UTC  

How are you going to treat him? Friend? Indifference? Enemy?

2018-09-25 00:57:18 UTC  

He's the only thing in the universe other than you that can harm you.

2018-09-25 00:57:43 UTC  

Out of simple self-preservation you must either dominate him or destroy him.

2018-09-25 00:58:01 UTC  

That's post-modernism.

2018-09-25 00:58:49 UTC  

>not joining up to double-bully your enemies

2018-09-25 00:59:13 UTC  

Sure, for a time. But in the end there can be only one will.

2018-09-25 01:01:02 UTC  

>I have a gun
>you have a gun
>surely one of us must kill the other
I dont really buy that tbh

2018-09-25 01:01:45 UTC  

That's not a good analogy.

2018-09-25 01:03:09 UTC  

Let's say I'm Ben Shapiro and I say there are only two genders.

2018-09-25 01:03:23 UTC  

In what sense? That it doesn't map to a scenario that has no actual logical structure?

2018-09-25 01:03:54 UTC  

And you're some special snowflake who thinks they're a third (or fourth, or fifty-seventh gender).

2018-09-25 01:04:33 UTC  

If both of our believes actually alter reality, we can't exist simultaneously.

2018-09-25 01:04:57 UTC  

Either our beliefs have to change or we have to change.

2018-09-25 01:05:20 UTC  

Either Ben has to start believing in the 57 genders, or the snowflake conforms to one of the two genders.

2018-09-25 01:05:30 UTC  

Please explain this guys https://youtu.be/N3irid2qUVk

2018-09-25 01:05:45 UTC  

Your analogy fails because my having a gun doesn't mean you don't have a gun.

2018-09-25 01:07:25 UTC  

They actually can, because the two sides aren't using the same concept

2018-09-25 01:07:53 UTC  

Remember now, we're not just talking about words, we're talking about reality.

2018-09-25 01:07:56 UTC  

Further, reality has no basis on belief

2018-09-25 01:08:08 UTC  

Reality is altering with our belief in this scenario. Lucid dreaming.

2018-09-25 01:08:37 UTC  

Yes, and you could have both the leftist concept and the righty concept exist simultaneously, because ultimately the lefty version is meaningless

2018-09-25 01:08:38 UTC  

You're sticking to the modernist metaphysics. I'm using different metaphyiscs.

2018-09-25 01:08:59 UTC  

You have to start thinking outside the modernist box if you want to understand these creatures.

2018-09-25 01:09:41 UTC  

No, I'm saying the leftist narrative is not a necessary contradiction. If anything it's overcategorization

2018-09-25 01:10:56 UTC  

You look at how these people express "genders" and you find that we already have words that describe these concepts in the vast majority of cases

2018-09-25 01:11:11 UTC  

They just map to a binary system

2018-09-25 01:11:38 UTC  

Whereas the narrative suggests they break the system

2018-09-25 01:11:44 UTC  

Ben saying "there are only two genders" is invalidating the existence of the snowflake. It's saying 'the reality you perceive is false'.

2018-09-25 01:12:02 UTC  

No it isn't, when you boil it down to the concepts being described

2018-09-25 01:12:21 UTC  

Would u thonk that men who trans to women did it because they believe women have it better than men in western culture?

2018-09-25 01:12:47 UTC  

Think*

2018-09-25 01:13:03 UTC  

Ben is saying "there are males and females", snowflake is saying " "there are feminine men and masculine women and I'm assigning those separate categories from man and woman"

2018-09-25 01:13:19 UTC  

Where each measurable point in the gradient becomes a category

2018-09-25 01:13:20 UTC  

Thats dumb