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2018-09-30 13:39:46 UTC  

Or maybe we all originated from the big bang

2018-09-30 13:39:56 UTC  

Or maybe we are living in a simulation

2018-09-30 13:40:05 UTC  

or maybe something completely different

2018-09-30 13:49:56 UTC  

my religion is capitalism

2018-09-30 15:25:17 UTC  

```Everyone's got a religion```
I dont. That might be thing for people who "stopped beliving"🤔

But i have been atheist all my life. So no, not everyone have religion.

2018-09-30 15:27:45 UTC  

I think the issue here is what people define as a "relligion"

2018-09-30 15:28:16 UTC  

Like for example, is relligion something you hold as a standard? "I relligiously follow a certain rule"

2018-09-30 15:28:34 UTC  

A diety you follow? What constitutes a diety?

2018-09-30 15:28:52 UTC  

The lack of belief a belief?

2018-09-30 15:29:34 UTC  

If you want to continue this discussion further it would be wise for everyone to state what their defination of a relligion is. Or at the very least, what something has to have before you consider it relligion

2018-09-30 15:32:26 UTC  

religion

rɪˈlɪdʒ(ə)n/

noun

the belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power, especially a personal God or gods.

"ideas about the relationship between science and religion"

synonyymit:faith, belief, divinity, worship, creed, teaching, doctrine, theology

a particular system of faith and worship.

plural noun: religions

"the world's great religions"

a pursuit or interest followed with great devotion.

"consumerism is the new religion"

2018-09-30 16:05:17 UTC  

Belief is to hold some value or statement as self-evident

2018-09-30 16:10:27 UTC  

There is nothing in the universe to prove that justice is real. Even when it comes to matter vs antimatter, the universe is heavily biased towards matter. But since ancient times we have upheld justice as a cardinal virtue.

2018-09-30 16:13:29 UTC  

Many athiests believe the failings of communism have been that bad people attempted it, not systematic.

2018-09-30 16:25:10 UTC  

yeah all commies are retarded.
but good old "correlation does not imply causation"

2018-09-30 17:10:30 UTC  

1.) I think Donald should call the Press "JJJ" from Spider-Man

2018-09-30 17:10:58 UTC  

2.) ```my religion is capitalism```
That is very bad as you can see in China, where they have no Religion and would sell their mother for Money...

2018-09-30 18:19:01 UTC  

selling your mother for money isn't capitalism. it's just common sense.

2018-09-30 18:21:10 UTC  

some people preach atheism as if it's just another religion

2018-09-30 18:32:03 UTC  

>selling your mother for money is just common sense.
WTF

>some people preach atheism as if it's just another religion
they are not atheist by the defenition...

2018-09-30 18:34:03 UTC  

having a mother is not a good investment

2018-09-30 18:34:45 UTC  

if you can find someone who buys, then it's just common sense to sell

2018-09-30 18:35:11 UTC  

a lot of people with mothers end up having to pay a lot to keep them alive in an elderly home

2018-09-30 18:36:53 UTC  

lol

2018-09-30 18:40:47 UTC  

*it must suck to be unwanted accident kid with no father.*

2018-09-30 18:41:27 UTC  

i imagine it does

2018-09-30 18:44:36 UTC  

Well, I refer peoples to JBP. you may say you are not religious but I'd wager you live your live pretty closely to a religious ideal. actions do speak louder than words.

2018-09-30 18:45:42 UTC  

well what if the ideals originate from something different than religion in the first place?

2018-09-30 18:46:03 UTC  

maybe we're drawn to religious ideals for a reason

2018-09-30 18:47:03 UTC  

because we already resonate with them

2018-09-30 18:48:27 UTC  

we just need some help with having more consistency with applying them to our life, and having the principles formulated

2018-09-30 18:51:00 UTC  

umm, if you live in a western country the values came from Judeo-Christianity.

2018-09-30 18:51:28 UTC  

Communist did away with religion and they suddenly did not value life and other things.

2018-09-30 18:52:20 UTC  

personally I think mankind has a God shaped hole in our heart. not advocating existance of God here.
If we don't fill it with something good it will be filled by other things like feminism or the worship of the state

2018-09-30 18:52:30 UTC  

^

2018-09-30 18:53:01 UTC  

well then it sounds like my argument is compatible with your argument
im saying that if we didnt already resonate with it, then judeo christianity would have never been a thing in the first place

2018-09-30 18:53:10 UTC  

The basis of human life being sacred is again Judeo-Christian. A spark of the Divine in all of us so to slay a man is to commit deicide

2018-09-30 18:53:57 UTC  

the reason we resonate with it could be either due to how a god made us, or how we simply evolved, it doesnt matter for the sake of my argument

2018-09-30 18:54:06 UTC  

nah it evolved over a long time. the final human sacrifice was codified as Christ so no one else would need to make that 'physical' sacrifice

2018-09-30 18:54:14 UTC  

I'm not religious myself, but from what I've seen when we get rid of certain value system another one replaces it. That new value system doesn't necessarily value human life or liberty

2018-09-30 18:55:25 UTC  

Sam Harris has his own Value system he wants to impliment and lets assume its a great system.
He wants to tear down all religion (much like certain religions do to other faiths) regardless of its intrinsic value to society