@Beemann The anti-priest thing is just more leftist anti-Christian rubbish. Even the current revelations about priests mostly involve things that happened in the '80s and '90s that just got covered up. Public schools are way more dangerous. So are foster homes. And other secular institutions. Catholic priests are safer than the average man ont he streeet, and WAY safer than teachers or foster home people or juvie prison guards. But don't expect the media to say that!

They're also no more dangerous than other Christian ministers--who are all less dangerous than schoolteachers.

But the Left hates Christians, so that's what it's all about for the MSM.

the revelations are about pedos still being shuffled by the church m8

@MetGreDKo It's not only relatively recent, it's dying. The whole Atheism thing is dying.

@Beemann No, they aren't, sir, I'm a Catholic, and a sex abuse survivor, and I've been following it very closely for years. The coverup in the public schools, foster homes, etc. in the Secular system are about 100X as worse. But it's OK, go ahead and keep hating on us if you want; we're your only shot at a sane civilization again but whatevs.

"No they arent"
"This other thing is worse"
one of these things is on topic, the other is a smokescreen

@Beemann Bullshit. It is a FACT that the Secular system is MUCh worse, and the press has been covering for them, and the system. But go ahead, get your hate on and enjoy it, it just proves you dont' actually care about child sex abuse.

foster care being shit isn't hidden. There's a number of studies that are pretty open about how ass it is

Nah I'm not an atheist because bragging and doing 7 deadly sins

Makes my life crash and burn

@Beemann If you know that then you know their problem is worse. But you make excuses for the Secular system. Hmm. Why do you do that?

lol because that's not the topic

you're just dodging

bot trying to keep the man down

@Beemann No, you're dodging.

"no you're trying to change the subject away from (this thing I invented to not talk about the subject)"

IT is a fact you can't deny, so you accuse others of doing something wrong. Sorry boy, I was molested by teachers, not priests.

Projection, your honour

@Beemann You made a moronic comment about priests that isn't true. Sorry if facts bother you.

@MaxKolbe Whether atheism is dying or not - which I've seen no evidence for - is moot. That wasn't the point of what I was saying. Rather that when religious attitudes have virtually defined what is and is not degenerate, of course a lack of religion - which doesn't just include atheism - will mean more degeneracy. That however would only be until the prevailing social perspectives shift enough where those non-religious attitudes become the norm.

You also dissed the much greater number of sex abuse victims. But that' sOK.

what isn't true? That the catholic church shuffled pedos? Sorry my dude, but that's true

@Beemann No, your implication and ignoring of the much more dangerous problems is the issue. But whatever, keep your hate going, we Catholics have no reason to care what you think.

that's verifiably true across multiple cases m8
that doesnt discount people who were also abused elsewhere

sorry, where was that implied other than your head?

@Beemann Sicne you won't acknowledge the much worse problem in the Secular system, you're just a hypocrite who doesn't care about the issue. I understand, it's common.

extraordinary claims without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence

it's not even that

he's constructed a strawman to shield himself from talking about pedo priests

@MetGreDKo Oh God, it's undeniable that the Atheist movement has been dying for years. If Sam Harris, PZ Myers, and so many others can admit it why cna't you?

@Beemann The constructed strawman is your pretense that somehow, we're "dodging" our priest issue when we acknowledge it, then you dodge and pretend we're supposed to ignore the much more dangerous teachers, prison guards, foster home workers, and so on, just so you can pretend Catholics have a worse problem when they obviously do not.

YOu want to lie and say we don't acknowledge the problem? Well eff you, because we do. Y ou're the one dodging and trying to dismiss everybody who's NOT a Catholic.

"foster care being shit isn't hidden. There's a number of studies that are pretty open about how ass it is" is apparently not acknowledging

fucking wew

But go ahead, like I said, we get used to hypocrisy from people who pretend the Catholic Church has a worse problem. It's not like you need evidence for your position or anything.

meanwhile you outright painted it as some Atheist Lie that the Catholic Church hides kiddie gropers

Anyway, the science all says Atheism is dying,a nd won't be missed. Given how many pedo-apologists existw ithin that network (like Dawkins), who cares what they think?

@Beemann Did no such thing. Merely noted the hypocrisy on display here.

here is something we can all agree on: humans are the worst, and should be exterminated

@Beemann And the reality that you OBVIOUSLY do not care AT ALL about raped children. and just want to get your hate on. I get it. We understand.