@Beemann No, you're dodging.

"no you're trying to change the subject away from (this thing I invented to not talk about the subject)"

IT is a fact you can't deny, so you accuse others of doing something wrong. Sorry boy, I was molested by teachers, not priests.

Projection, your honour

@Beemann You made a moronic comment about priests that isn't true. Sorry if facts bother you.

@MaxKolbe Whether atheism is dying or not - which I've seen no evidence for - is moot. That wasn't the point of what I was saying. Rather that when religious attitudes have virtually defined what is and is not degenerate, of course a lack of religion - which doesn't just include atheism - will mean more degeneracy. That however would only be until the prevailing social perspectives shift enough where those non-religious attitudes become the norm.

You also dissed the much greater number of sex abuse victims. But that' sOK.

what isn't true? That the catholic church shuffled pedos? Sorry my dude, but that's true

@Beemann No, your implication and ignoring of the much more dangerous problems is the issue. But whatever, keep your hate going, we Catholics have no reason to care what you think.

that's verifiably true across multiple cases m8
that doesnt discount people who were also abused elsewhere

sorry, where was that implied other than your head?

@Beemann Sicne you won't acknowledge the much worse problem in the Secular system, you're just a hypocrite who doesn't care about the issue. I understand, it's common.

extraordinary claims without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence

it's not even that

he's constructed a strawman to shield himself from talking about pedo priests

@MetGreDKo Oh God, it's undeniable that the Atheist movement has been dying for years. If Sam Harris, PZ Myers, and so many others can admit it why cna't you?

@Beemann The constructed strawman is your pretense that somehow, we're "dodging" our priest issue when we acknowledge it, then you dodge and pretend we're supposed to ignore the much more dangerous teachers, prison guards, foster home workers, and so on, just so you can pretend Catholics have a worse problem when they obviously do not.

YOu want to lie and say we don't acknowledge the problem? Well eff you, because we do. Y ou're the one dodging and trying to dismiss everybody who's NOT a Catholic.

"foster care being shit isn't hidden. There's a number of studies that are pretty open about how ass it is" is apparently not acknowledging

fucking wew

But go ahead, like I said, we get used to hypocrisy from people who pretend the Catholic Church has a worse problem. It's not like you need evidence for your position or anything.

meanwhile you outright painted it as some Atheist Lie that the Catholic Church hides kiddie gropers

Anyway, the science all says Atheism is dying,a nd won't be missed. Given how many pedo-apologists existw ithin that network (like Dawkins), who cares what they think?

@Beemann Did no such thing. Merely noted the hypocrisy on display here.

here is something we can all agree on: humans are the worst, and should be exterminated

@Beemann And the reality that you OBVIOUSLY do not care AT ALL about raped children. and just want to get your hate on. I get it. We understand.

@Grenade123 I"ll drink to that!

" The anti-priest thing is just more leftist anti-Christian rubbish. Even the current revelations about priests mostly involve things that happened in the '80s and '90s that just got covered up."
"the revelations are about pedos still being shuffled by the church m8"
"No, they aren't, sir"

we need that AI from wargames, get this nuclear apocalypse a rollin!

@Beemann It is a FACT that Catholic priests are less dangerous than schoolteachers. Now why do you keep changing the subject away from just ACKNOWLEDGING this statistical, scientific fact, so a real discussion can be had?

More projection

@Beemann speaks for himslef, pretending he cares about sex abuse victims while insulting one to his face.

you came in to dispute the claim I made, ergo the topic is the Catholic Church and priests

you getting abused does not mean you get to act like an illiterate fuckwit. The two are, in fact, not connected in the slightest

Really? It looks like the generic debate channel to me, and it looks like you pretended that the CC has a particularly bad problem when it's a fact that the secular system has a worse problemk and covers up worse. Whatever, we all get it, you hate Catholics.

@MaxKolbe You're conflating two things now. One can be atheist and not be a part of a movement. Being atheist just means holding a belief god or what ever you wish to call it does not exist or merely not believing one does exist (definitions tend to vary in different circles. The precise definition doesnt matter here). Being a part of an atheistic movement means holding that belief and striving towards something with others in a collective effort.

And don't care about raped children even a little.

lol this is SJW tier shit my dude

@MetGreDKo The Atheist MOvement--not the average atheist, the capital A Atheist movement--is an anti-Christian movement and has been a while now. And supported by MSM the whole way. That's because the agenda was always to hate on religious people, not to actually help anyone.

">religion prevents degeneracy
That's why Catholic priests and Islamists keep diddling kids right?"
Religion != Degeneracy is a claim disproven by a religious institution aiding degenerates who are *part of the organization*

@Beemann SJWs hate Christians, dork. The anti-religious movement is part of SJWism.