@MaxKolbe I'm having trouble typing a response because you are conflating atheism with an atheistic movement saying the former is dying because one if the latters supposedly is. Upon bringing the conflating of things to your sttention you now ignore it and and purpose of my statement you now go off and ramble about something off-topic. I'm not even sure why you're @ ing me at this point.

I'm old though, I've been on t he internet since the early '90s.

Do you enjoy what SJW's are doing in the humanities on campus?

@MetGreDKo OK, let's clarify: As a rule you have your average lower-case atheist, who is just a guy who has trouble taking the spiritual seriously, has doubts, etc. Plus he's usually a male who came from a dysfunctional home. Then, there's the capital-A, Movement Atheists, whose job is to spread anti-religious propaganda for fun and profit. IT's two different things.

@tritrium No, not at all, and since they are dogmatically Capital A Atheists, it's not hard for me to see how it all fits.

Do you talk about this a lot?

Being a Militant Atheist is part of the gig if you're gonna be a serious SJW, although a few make ridiculous noises about being religious when it's obvious they're not honest.

@tritrium Yup. Feel free to join our server if you like. We've been at it three years.

https://discord.gg/ARyyQV

Wouldnt you say that much obsession is ridiculous then?

@tritrium Not really, given the experiences I've had as both an atheist and an ex-atheist, and what I've seen and documented from the virulent cult network of capital A Atheist ideologues. WHich is utterly and completely a cult movement.

@MaxKolbe for the record, your evidence of that is not 100% up to par. about the broken home part. The evidence presented in that book, besides just being a book to rag on some prominent atheist at the time and debunk a claim from Freud, is not supported that most atheists are from broken homes. The evidence that you can gain from that book, and is supported by other research, is that kids from broken homes are more likely to be atheist that those who are not. 2 times more.

TYhe captal A Atheist movement was always a SocJus project, from the beginning. They held their purge with AtheismPlus.

And this is different with creationists wanting to have their theory taught in schools as serious scientific alternatives how exactly?

@Grenade123 Yes, and more than that. Most atheists are basically j ust mad at their dads.

still debatable

@tritrium Not sure I understand the question. Frankly even when I was an atheist I thought the anti-Creationist hysteria and witch hunts were far more damaging than the actual dangers of the Creationists. That's what got me expelled from the capital A Atheist cult movement.

@Grenade123 The science stands until you can overturn it. My decades of experience shows it's true. IT even matched me. 😉

Well its a pretty straight forward question

@tritrium It is? How so?

@MaxKolbe Reading back I have a better idea what you're trying to say. That religious influence is on the rise as the atheist movement supposedly is in decline. Except non-religious is a growing subset of the population and last I recall the church had to file for bankruptcy or was on the verge of it due to declining attendance. In either case as non-religious is rising and the religious are not (last I read anyway), there's no reason to believe the trend away from religious influence will be reversed. It might be halted through stagnation but even the religious subset of the population perceive and interact with things differently than even 30 years ago.

For example, @tritrium , Ideological Atheist ranks are FILLED with pseudoscience and pseudoscientists. Of which Dawkins is inartguably one. So's Lawrence Krauss.

Back then you had creationists attempting to get into the scools several times, under different names, with their theory as a serious scientific alternative.

It went on for years

@tritrium I was there and I remember it well. I can tell you lots about it too. I ncluding how much of it was really just a game from the SocJus Left.

Today you got sjw's in the humanities spreading their dogma around

my current lived experience shows its not true, we can play that game but why bother. Being mad at their dads is not the same as broken home. And if order for broken homes to produce most of the atheists according to the few studies i could find related to this topic, something like 2/3rd of all households period would need to be broken homes.

@tritrium The entire move to accept Scientific Naturalism as "Science" was a SocJus project.

This is how SJWs have done so much to ruin the hard sciences, not just the Humanities.

@MetGreDKo I actually wouldnt mind discussing that trend, its implications, and solutions going forward tbh. Here or in General, whatever works

Through their ideology of Scientific Naturalism (which isn't science), plus a whole bunch of other PHilosophy of Science BS.

I would argue that it's a wider trend than just a shift away from religious affiliation

@Beemann A book to look at before I go:

bot strikes again

Nah, I ain't got time. Anyway, look for "The Triumph of Faith" by sociologist Rodney Stark. IT's simply undeniable: Secularism is dying as an ideology, globally. In Europe, in North America, actually on every contintent, and the non-religious population is pretty much taking itself out of the gene pool in Darwinian fashion.

Yeah i dont buy that naturalism or evolution for that matter is a socjus project.

@Beemann I would agree with that assertion. It's just the best I could phrase it here. Discord has a character limit and I'm typing on my phone, not to mention I haven't seriously looked into stuff in a long time so am out of touch in many ways simply due to apathy. It was only gamergate which roused my attention again.

I dont know if you realize it but the SJW's are openly against biology an naturalism itself.

Actually maxkolbe the things you point out got nothing to do with a triumph of faith

we all unironically just wanted to play our videogames. @MetGreDKo

its rather that most of these people end up highly educated and highly educated people tend to have fewer kids.