Message from @pratel

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2018-10-24 20:42:46 UTC  

Most Gnostic language is taken from Greek because Gnosticism emerged from Neoplatonic philosophy.

2018-10-24 20:45:00 UTC  

The idea is that the archetypal man is a divine being, and really this doesn't have an affect on factual reality, it is not necessarily supernatural because it is not claiming the divine directly contacts factual reality.

2018-10-24 20:45:30 UTC  

If God's consciousness is corporeal, and untainted by the material world, not tainted by contact with matter, how can a human with a single consciousness contact it?

2018-10-24 20:45:38 UTC  

Let alone become one with t

2018-10-24 20:46:18 UTC  

And, if any humna did do that, or ever did do that, that consciousness would no longer be corporeal

2018-10-24 20:46:20 UTC  

God is not corporeal

2018-10-24 20:46:28 UTC  

He is the opposite

2018-10-24 20:46:54 UTC  

It says that his thought is corporeal on that wiki page

2018-10-24 20:47:40 UTC  

Sorry no it doesnt

2018-10-24 20:47:48 UTC  

I was reading the wrong thing

2018-10-24 20:50:06 UTC  

Let me go again: If God's mind is not corporeal, and hasnt been darkened by contact with the material world or matter, how can it be joined with a consciousness that you described as arising from the composite parts of our physical being?

2018-10-24 20:51:25 UTC  

Through reflections of his light in images.

2018-10-24 20:52:17 UTC  

In essence, through some supernatural phenomenon

2018-10-24 20:53:53 UTC  

Supernatural is a very subjective term, and I wouldn't call it supernatural, I would call it metaphysical phenomenon.

2018-10-24 20:54:49 UTC  

Which is an abstraction of philosophy

2018-10-24 20:55:57 UTC  

An abstraction isn't a supernatural concept though.

2018-10-24 20:56:39 UTC  

No, but neither philosophy nor religion are scientifically quantifiable

2018-10-24 21:02:18 UTC  

I believe where this was all coming from was whether a supernatural or metaphysical being was necessary for humans, and whether atheism replaced that, or in my view whether that supposition was in actual fact a valid supposition and that there is a possibility of a human to exercise their free will to think freely

2018-10-25 02:14:39 UTC  

**Question**: Should political topics be involved in tests like the SAT and ACT? I just took the PSAT today, and in the reading section there were two excerpts about black feminism. Though I forget what the excerpts were from, it offset me to see it in such a test.

2018-10-25 02:17:35 UTC  

No.

2018-10-25 02:17:50 UTC  

But the colleges have decided that's "nonpolitical" and inline with what they want to teach.

2018-10-25 02:18:01 UTC  

Unless you can rally enough people to really fight back...

2018-10-25 02:19:09 UTC  

It's troubling to me because the test makers are fairly secretive in what they put in the test.

2018-10-25 02:19:29 UTC  

I hate to break it to you, but the next 4 years are only going to get worse.

2018-10-25 02:19:46 UTC  

I'm in academia (sort of) and I can say that's exactly the kind of thing they do these days.

2018-10-25 02:20:07 UTC  

True, I remember taking the PSAT 2 years ago and there no questions of that sort back then.

2018-10-25 02:20:36 UTC  

Yeah, the far left kinda has uncontested control of the humanities at this point.

2018-10-25 02:20:50 UTC  

There's as many or more radicals in departments like Sociology than there are moderates.

2018-10-25 02:21:26 UTC  

And (in all likelihood) 0 conservatives of any kind. And those that do exist don't exactly have the mass to accomplish anything besides get defunded.

2018-10-25 02:22:43 UTC  

If you want someone to talk to, you're welcome to PM me anytime.

2018-10-25 02:22:54 UTC  

And for students there's definitely organizations you can join.

2018-10-25 02:23:34 UTC  

Thanks, I just find it disturbing that the excerpts are in such a widespread test like the PSAT.

2018-10-25 02:23:49 UTC  

I find it disturbing too. But I'm somehow unsurprised.

2018-10-25 02:24:32 UTC  

The excepts had to have gone through a slew of people to be approved, and apparently none of them thought it wasn't political

2018-10-25 02:25:17 UTC  

Mostly underpaid faculty and grad students in humanities programs.

2018-10-25 02:25:45 UTC  

You should look at the colloquia list. It's farther Social Justice Left than you've ever imagined. Even at "right wing" schools in "red states"

2018-10-25 02:40:38 UTC  

I called someone out on that point in another discord

2018-10-25 02:41:30 UTC  

His argument was that Rand is bad and has been debunked by academics (though he initially worded it as an appeal to authority) and then proceeded to try to defend academia, which is where I hopped in with the hoaxes and bias

2018-10-25 02:47:02 UTC  

How do 'academics' debunk a philosophical ideology on- you know what, never mind.

2018-10-25 02:48:29 UTC  

Lol