Okay? Where's that list?

Death toll is a separate issue

leftists absolutely dominate in terms of property damage, but that's not counted as terrorism despite being political violence :^)

Death toll is the more important issue*

GTD my dude

GTD?

We dispute this number because it appears to us that you're creating arbitrary definitions to create the number.

74% of incidents is huuuge

downplaying that is just silly tbh

You want a big number, so you choose definitions of what is and is not an incident to create a big number.

Lies, damned lies, and statistics, as @Joe_Limon said

Now, now, we haven't looked at the data yet, let's not point fingers so early.

The definition is politically motivated violence. In this case, murder.

So it is death tolls?

If we included normal politically motivated violence then it would look more even

Death tolls are higher for Islam even post 9/11

Ok, so a death is required. Meaning the MAGAbomber doesn't count.

How do you measure if violence is politically motivated

What about premeditation?

Do you have tables, or graphs, or lists? For the 10 year period, that is.

If you study law, finding intention requires a process

And keep in mind I've already said that Right Wing appears to be a bigger source of domestic terrorism in the US in the last 10 years than Left Wing. Just that Islam is even more by far.

@Bookworm https://www.start.umd.edu/gtd/

There’s also like, a billion studies on this

ooh, that's a useful site

Yeah, it's still the same numbers for 2008 and 2009.

The difference between a terrorist attack and a national tragedy is media attention. Islamic extremists are generally the ones responsible for insodences that have abnormally high fatalities

Yeah, these are the same numbers I was getting off the wikipedia page.

I'll go back to that.

To answer an earlier point, attempted murder counts as in incident so the MAGA bomber would be included.

if trump wins in 2020 and gets more of his agenda implemented, we might see a swing back to left wing terrorism as a response. people feeling like there's no path forward for their ideology in a system dominated by conservatives.

The death toll wouldn’t rise because he didn’t actually kill anyone

2011, only 2 dead, no injured. Never proven, but suspected to be from an anti-Democratic militia. Eh, we'll call it a wash.

if we're going to count the magabomber we're going to count clanton

If he was found guilty for attempted murder then he would be on the list

So that's another flaw then
>make plea deal
>not a terrorist
>omg look at all these terrorists who didn't get a deal

that's fuckin weak bro. that makes me think you're not arguing in good faith.

I’m simply informing you all on the realities of terrorisim

>antifa beats a man past the point of unconsciousness
>nobody charged
>not terrorism lol

No that’s terrorisim

It’s not murder but it’s still terrorisim