Message from @pratel

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2018-10-28 17:43:37 UTC  

And all (aside retail) are banned from simply discriminating for non-economic reasons.

2018-10-28 17:43:41 UTC  

All things the government is involved in, monitors, and uses to accuse me of terrorism and throw me in jail or put me on a drone hitlist

2018-10-28 17:43:55 UTC  

@Grenade123 And when his money runs out? He hasn't seemed too effective.

2018-10-28 17:44:01 UTC  

`So you think that they should just ban James Woods.` If James Woods acts in a way that without a shadow of a doubt violates the platforms terms of services I don't think alot of people would argue against. Only problem is the TOS are too vague for interpreation, selectively enforced and most times users are punished without a crime. If Twitter equally enforced their TOS they'd have maybe half of the daily active users tomorrow

2018-10-28 17:44:09 UTC  

Very good options: get kicked off a platform and stop having socialist yell at me, or get drone strikes.

2018-10-28 17:44:43 UTC  

"Drone strikes" has to be the slippery slope of the year.

2018-10-28 17:44:48 UTC  

Perhaps we should remove 230 so James woods can sue for their vauge terms

2018-10-28 17:44:49 UTC  

Not an argument Grenade.

2018-10-28 17:45:10 UTC  

Removing 230 is on the table.

2018-10-28 17:45:23 UTC  

Is it? Need I go find the list of America citizens Obama had killed for no reason? And Trump hasn't stopped?

2018-10-28 17:45:47 UTC  

But I'm not sure it would be enough. I think it would open up for the SPLC and well-heeled NGOs to just sue people they don't like to oblivion.

2018-10-28 17:45:49 UTC  

I guess Snowfen was a lair and they have none of those programs right?

2018-10-28 17:46:05 UTC  

We're talking about social media and internet censorship. Not military action.

2018-10-28 17:46:35 UTC  

Bullshit, all government action is military action

2018-10-28 17:46:42 UTC  

And you think somehow not regulating tech censorship somehow removes the NSA monitoring programs?

2018-10-28 17:47:04 UTC  

It won't. Law enforcement will do what it wants regardless.

2018-10-28 17:47:15 UTC  

Removing 230 means they have to stop banning oland editing or be open to be sued into oblivion

2018-10-28 17:47:45 UTC  

Because protection for platform was around to protect libraries before social media

2018-10-28 17:47:48 UTC  

See, you're right, but I also see it backfiring and really helping the really well-heeled organizations at the expense of everyone else.

2018-10-28 17:48:08 UTC  

Infact, 230 was enacted to protect platform censorship from lawsuit

2018-10-28 17:48:12 UTC  

Section 230 would need explicit reform. Something closer to common carrier, which is what I'm arguing.

2018-10-28 17:48:39 UTC  

You're just saying "repeal 230 and no regulation because it's governmnet"

2018-10-28 17:48:49 UTC  

You and Beemann...

2018-10-28 17:49:01 UTC  

No, because it is a bad law

2018-10-28 17:49:12 UTC  

I have less of a headache banging on an anvil. Atleast the anvil can bend and realize when it's wrong.

2018-10-28 17:49:24 UTC  

I'm agreeing. I'm saying "repeal" isn't enough.

2018-10-28 17:49:29 UTC  

A company wanted to censor curse words but not he considered a publisher.

2018-10-28 17:49:42 UTC  

Yes, I've seen your video.

2018-10-28 17:49:45 UTC  

230 was the only part of the entirely shit law to follow

2018-10-28 17:49:49 UTC  

Are you reading what I'm saying?

2018-10-28 17:50:13 UTC  

Can you quote exactly what 230 says

2018-10-28 17:50:34 UTC  

Is this for me or Grenade?

2018-10-28 17:50:41 UTC  

Either or

2018-10-28 17:51:19 UTC  

@SantaSoc not ATM. Busy.

2018-10-28 17:51:35 UTC  

Here's the law. I don't have it memorized.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/47/230

2018-10-28 17:52:15 UTC  

@pratel we have free speech because the Constitution limits government power, not grows it.

2018-10-28 17:52:37 UTC  

Free speech is a principle as well as a legal doctrine.

2018-10-28 17:54:02 UTC  

So reading that law, how does it habe a negative impact?

2018-10-28 17:54:23 UTC  

Have*

2018-10-28 17:55:13 UTC  

According to Grenade (we've had this argument before), it essentially allows explicit curation and provides protection from what users post anyway.

2018-10-28 17:55:40 UTC  

de facto allowing tech to have it's cake (perform censorship) and eat it too (be immune from lawsuits based on what people post).