Message from @velvitonator
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i constantly receive messages from helpful people telling me about 7 ways to DESTROY toenail fungus
i'm trying to say that there are lots and lots (and *lots*) of unforeseen consequences to your approach.
If we allow them to ban people who are spamming, then we allow them to ban anyone they don't like.
whereas if we just try to boot companies in the dick for colluding to squash competitors, we don't have to upset the current balance.
Because what is the difference between someone standing outside trump tower repeating orange man bad and someone spamming that on social media?
spam is automated and outnumbers humans in volume.
Social media involve using someone else's resources to do your shouting
Okay, so then we agree Twitter can keep on doing what it is doing
I mean, who are we to force them to host someone they don't want?
Megaphones help boost speech too, should megaphone companies be forced to give them for free?
IMO the way forward is technological
Things like Minds that are by-design censorship-resistant
Or where even the platform holders can't see what's going on without user assistance
I would agree there
Although that has some way to go still
These things take time
I think patience is recommended here
Jumping the gun will likely only make things worse
it would be tolerable (if not ideal) for twitter to continue to censor people based on their political ideology if and only if the market were free and competitors were possible. so there are two solutions, each fraught with peril. one is to have some form of government regulation in twitter's behavior, the other is to force payment processors to work with alternatives like gab. without one of those two alternatives, we have to accept that the principle of free speech does not apply to the internet.
right now we have neither of these two scenarios.
Anyone can make a social network
See: Gab, Minds, more small ones
What we need to figure out is a way around payment processors
Just because it doesn't displace all at once doesn't mean it's not competing with it
gab may not last the night.
We can get around thinks like ISPs, but that requires a community effort.
Tor/VPN?
Minds is a step. Cryptos might be a way to get around the problem. But they are still too unstable
still requires hosting infrastructure and payment processors
Really why are payment processors even needed? Because we are too lazy to write monthly checks.
gab is being booted from its second host within hours
I thought Minds had some internal crypto?
Or ship hard cash
I think minds does
No, payment processors mitigate risk and volume
Or maybe that is steemit
and currently its only sources of income are shopify and startengine, both of which are likely to be lost as they rely on the same payment processors through a middleman
TBH I'm not gonna shed any tears over gab
mind's internal crypto is a failure
But there's nothing that really prevents it from operating