Message from @PerformedShelf

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2018-10-29 18:06:05 UTC  

Backlash is what I meant

2018-10-29 18:06:25 UTC  

Nice, that's pretty funny.

2018-10-29 18:06:38 UTC  

Hopefully Voat, reddit, and 4chan are next

2018-10-29 18:06:39 UTC  

You don't have to be in a party to identify as one brakley

2018-10-29 18:06:48 UTC  

Why what wrong with reddit?

2018-10-29 18:07:11 UTC  

The_Donald?

2018-10-29 18:07:14 UTC  

Gigantic festering liberal/reactionary hivemind

2018-10-29 18:07:40 UTC  

Just shut down every place people are free to have conversations then?

2018-10-29 18:07:41 UTC  

tbh youtube should go down first

2018-10-29 18:07:47 UTC  

Oh well they don't call for violence but i admit they are an annoyance

2018-10-29 18:07:49 UTC  

yeah, that would probably be good

2018-10-29 18:07:53 UTC  

Lmao

2018-10-29 18:08:20 UTC  

You do realise cockroaches scurry away from the light don't you??

2018-10-29 18:08:28 UTC  

Yeah so?

2018-10-29 18:08:45 UTC  

would you say that in a way that's not a metaphor? I am small brain

2018-10-29 18:09:03 UTC  

We can't exterminate Nazi's no matter how we try identitfy and kick them off when you find them

2018-10-29 18:09:04 UTC  

that's a bit too abstract for me too

2018-10-29 18:09:41 UTC  

@methdragon we already agreed that different types of societies in different stages of stability would be less likely to have fascists appear

2018-10-29 18:09:56 UTC  

Yes I was responding to brakes comment

2018-10-29 18:10:43 UTC  

Cockroaches scurry aways form light means - he means if we drive away Nazis we will just push them more inwards and can't find them

2018-10-29 18:10:47 UTC  

Well, the best way to ensure that certain ways of thinking will flourish is to push them further and further underground. Having things exposed in the public space, on social media and elsewhere actually helps, du to being able to counteract those ideologies and ways of thinking. Push people underground, and you'll just get further extremes

2018-10-29 18:11:02 UTC  

that's not really accurate

2018-10-29 18:11:15 UTC  

as far-right ideas have become mainstreamed, they've only grown

2018-10-29 18:11:34 UTC  

I think one of the reasons is because of trump

2018-10-29 18:11:43 UTC  

Also Obama?

2018-10-29 18:12:01 UTC  

talking with them has failed massively, see far-right nationalists elected in the americas and all over europe

2018-10-29 18:12:03 UTC  

You know, it depends on where you're coming from, if you're left leaning, you're much more likely to think people on the right are "far-right"

2018-10-29 18:12:34 UTC  

their platform is infectious and has only grown from being exposed and debated

2018-10-29 18:12:43 UTC  

Heck far left thinks being left is right

2018-10-29 18:12:50 UTC  

Engaging and discussing with the far right grows their platform?

2018-10-29 18:12:58 UTC  

That says a lot.

2018-10-29 18:12:58 UTC  

yes

2018-10-29 18:13:05 UTC  

there are many reasons for this happening but the fact of the matter is, talking to them does grow their platform, absolutely

2018-10-29 18:13:28 UTC  

or, more realistically, talking to them in public is what I mean

2018-10-29 18:13:28 UTC  

because no matter how thoroughly you debunk them or dismantle their reasoning, they fundamentally rely on emotional appeals and dogwhistles

2018-10-29 18:13:47 UTC  

I think if we talk to them and expose how much of their ideas sounds like shit we could do it

2018-10-29 18:13:47 UTC  

and those strategies work very well on the general population

2018-10-29 18:13:56 UTC  

I completely disagree, for one, who exactly are we saying is far-right? If what you mean is, the more right leaning commentators that appear, the more the left can label as "far-right" then I'd agree

2018-10-29 18:13:58 UTC  

No?

2018-10-29 18:14:26 UTC  

@PerformedShelf by far-right I mean "more nationalist, racist, and reactionary than the previous decade's status quo"

2018-10-29 18:14:40 UTC  

The point is to change their mind