@methdragon violently overthrow all states and establish a workers' society

what workers?

If there is more immigration to america there will be more identity politics

@xmrsmoothx you a socialist or communist?

there are very few these days who are really workers

@PerformedShelf "and that it might be prudent to restrict immigration after a period of influx." is nationalism, if applied to races is ethno-nationalism

it may be pragmatic, but it is still that

That is plain wrong

@methdragon define "socialist" and "communist"

Why do you always ask for definitions?

@Grenade123 the working class

I repeat, an ethno-state is a country with one ethnicity, hence the Aryan race that Hitler wanted to establish as the ruling and rightful ethinicity of Germany. A multi-ethnic country cannot be an ethno-state, and its people cannot be ethno-nationalists

@methdragon oftentimes people use definitions of words that don't mean to them what they mean to me, so I like to make sure we're on the same page

so everyone not a public employee

True

@Grenade123 that's not what working class means

I understand but its funny I am sorry

@PerformedShelf ethno-nationalism isn't necessarily coincident with ethno-state, I would say

the working class was invented back when most people worked in factories

Socialism - a political and economic theory of social organization which advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole.

now must work in that area is done by machines

instead we have more service-oriented fields.

Communism - a theory or system of social organization in which all property is owned by the community and each person contributes and receives according to their ability and needs

@methdragon more or less yeah

Most people can become CEOs

The standard definition

Yeah I disagree with that

@methdragon not the second definition, that's not what communist means

is it easy? no.

No?

@xmrsmoothx True, I will grant you that, there may be some Ethno-nationalists in any society, but a citizen in a country with multiple ethnicities who is fine with immigration, but is pragmatic about the details is not an etho-nationalist

Then my school's teaching is a lie

@Grenade123 what you're saying is "many people in the working class can change to a different class" which doesn't really affect what I'm saying

@methdragon not surprising

How do your fine communism? Smooth

what it does say, is punish the people who worked hard to get into that class, and reward people for not working hard

@PerformedShelf "but is pragmatic about the details is not an etho-nationalist" I think at the very least they're a nationalist, and if their restrictions are applied to race as well, it's ethno-nationalist

I am for welfare capitalism

@xmrsmoothx tell me, why should i make food for you?

@methdragon communism is a stateless, classless, international society wherein generalized commodity production is abolished

@xmrsmoothx I'm glad you conceded that being a nationalist is not the same as being a Nazi, thank you