Like in the episode where Riker has to negotiate for the rights to a supposedly stable wormhole

Again, there's reference to personal debt, personal property, personal possessions

But if you acquired a possession through socialist means then that can still be your own

>acquired a possession through socialist means
Que
How does a man own a vineyard "through socialist means"?

"This portion of land is what is allotted to you, do with it what you want"

>we're allotting land on *Earth* to people, because socialism

>to do whatever they want with it

Well, the idea would be that they would have land to make their home and be the best person they could by pursuing whatever they wished

Land has scarcity, especially on earth

But by that point theres already colonies of humans in many systems

They're also listed as owners

Right. And probably because there isn't much space on earth

And even then, humanity has borders

Even in a post-scarcity society socialism would still not work.

The system is fundamentally flawed and unlimited resources won't fix the societal issues that socialism leads to.

tfw no hot civil war

🐸 feelsbadman

In the US? The only winner in a US hot civil war is China.

@DrYuriMom That depends who wins.

*on

we may already be in the opening phase of a hot civil war. people always expect something out of a war movie. with clear sides, uniforms, a command structure, etc. like WW2 fought in city streets. it's not going to look like that at all. it'll look like assassinations, bombings, arson. targeted killings, specifically for intimidation. social media will play a huge role both in locating targets and disseminating intimidation video (think ISIS videos or cartel videos, except in english starring Americans)

Not on what is left?

Can you say Pyrrhic Victory?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pyrrhic_victory

I can, but I disargee.

Oh?

right now some antifa lunatic is looking at what the uniboomer did and is thinking "I could do way better than that retard"

And that person needs to be prosecuted if they do it

And the FBI needs to do their job by preventing it

Atkins is half right here. If this gets out of hand how is it going to be stopped? With the people begging for the government to step in and take rights away.

We've seen nutcases from all walks of life going on bombing or shooting sprees

Dems, Repubs, Christian Identity, Muslim

It strikes me that any ideology can produce batshit crazy radicals

We need everyone to stop feeding into it

you have too much faith in the FBI. it's easy to stop some a lone moron like cesar sayoc (even though he managed to send 15 devices before they caught him). but it'll be impossible if you dozens or hundreds of even halfway competent people doing it.

I don't believe they can stop everyone, but they are working to stop what they can

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boston_Marathon_bombing> these two guys shut down a major city for days.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oklahoma_City_bombing I know

i don't think we're past the point of no return quite yet, but we can very easily tip into a self-sustaining cycle of retributive violence that outstrips the ability of authorities to control.

Agreed

I'm not denying that