Message from @Grenade123

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2018-11-02 13:25:18 UTC  

if you count human cells that have the potential to turn into something we consider human life, than all sperm cells have that potential, and choosing to masturbate over have sex is you choosing to kill potential life

2018-11-02 13:25:35 UTC  

Sperm can not become human life.

2018-11-02 13:25:42 UTC  

technically all periods but those are not voluntary

2018-11-02 13:26:06 UTC  

it can. You choosing not to try and knock someone up is the only reason they can't.

2018-11-02 13:26:07 UTC  

The only cell that become human life outside the body of a grown person is a fertilized egg.

2018-11-02 13:26:35 UTC  

unless you are talking about test tube babies, a fertilized egg needs a womb

2018-11-02 13:26:40 UTC  

which means it still needs a mother

2018-11-02 13:26:50 UTC  

Sperm has 1 purpose, fertilizing an egg cell.

2018-11-02 13:27:04 UTC  

An egg cell has only 1 purpose too.

2018-11-02 13:27:12 UTC  

To be fertilized by a sperm cell

2018-11-02 13:27:54 UTC  

a fertilized egg has 1 purpose too, and it needs to stay in the body it was created in.

2018-11-02 13:28:03 UTC  

or at least a body of a grown person

2018-11-02 13:28:18 UTC  

So forgive me if I'm wrong but I do not see how masturbation relates to miscarriages/abortions.

2018-11-02 13:28:32 UTC  

The human male makes millions of sperm a day.

2018-11-02 13:28:41 UTC  

yes, but we don't choose to kill them.

2018-11-02 13:28:46 UTC  

masturbation is a choice

2018-11-02 13:28:56 UTC  

as is abortion

2018-11-02 13:29:14 UTC  

periods and miscarriages are not, nor is standard decay of cells

2018-11-02 13:29:23 UTC  

Sperm dies shortly after creation

2018-11-02 13:29:41 UTC  

They last like 3 days in the male body

2018-11-02 13:29:51 UTC  

you are missing hte point

2018-11-02 13:30:15 UTC  

Yeah I'm confused.

2018-11-02 13:30:58 UTC  

if sperm never enters a female, does it have a chance to result in human life?

2018-11-02 13:31:04 UTC  

No

2018-11-02 13:31:16 UTC  

If it does enter a female, does it have a chance to result in human life?

2018-11-02 13:31:29 UTC  

Well with science doing all them bullshit things

2018-11-02 13:31:35 UTC  

Maybe in the future it does

2018-11-02 13:31:41 UTC  

But right now?

2018-11-02 13:32:02 UTC  

okay, lets discount future science as it can make the whole debate irrelevant by letting humans have our cake and eat it too

2018-11-02 13:32:40 UTC  

Okay, if it doesn't enter a female then sperm can not result in human life.

2018-11-02 13:33:01 UTC  

If sperm does enter a female, it can result in human life.

2018-11-02 13:35:42 UTC  

correct. Now a Fertilized egg. If it does not enter a female body (we are counting surrogates here, hence enter) Does it have a chance to result in human life (if we consider that at least born baby level of development for right now)?

2018-11-02 13:36:04 UTC  

No.

2018-11-02 13:36:42 UTC  

It would die shortly after growing a bit.

2018-11-02 13:37:58 UTC  

Wait that's a 2 fold question

2018-11-02 13:38:09 UTC  

Didnt read it close enough

2018-11-02 13:38:45 UTC  

Oh wait, no it's not.

2018-11-02 13:39:07 UTC  

now, i just put in clarification

2018-11-02 13:39:08 UTC  

Yes its human life

2018-11-02 13:39:28 UTC  

It's just not gonna live.

2018-11-02 13:39:49 UTC  

well hold now