Message from @Cody
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now, i just put in clarification
Yes its human life
It's just not gonna live.
well hold now
The question confused me at first
If either a sperm or fertilized egg are removed from the female body at any point, they will not result in human life (as defined by needing to be born)?
My response is that it is human life. But does not have a chance to grow more than it already has.
that wasn't a question if it was or was not, i'm just saying for the purpose of the question, birth is the min level of development where basically everyone agrees it is human life
I disagree with that premise.
i know you do
if you want me to say "born baby" rather than human life, i can from now on
But if it was never in a womb to grow, how can it be born?
but i'm trying to find out how far back on the development track we can go while both in agreement.
That's why it confused me at first
it can't, hence why it can't be human life, or reworded, can't be a born baby
That makes no sense
here, If a sperm cell never enters a female, it will never have a chance to turn into a born baby. If a sperm cell does enter a female, it has a chance
Being human isnt about being born. It's about having exactly 46 chromosomes.
That cell has exactly that many, therefor it is human life.
if a fertilized egg never enters a female, it will never result in a born baby, or 9 months of development
wait, so people with an extra chromosome are not human?
rip everyone with Aneuploidy.
Never heard of a person with 47 chromosomes
seriously? never heard of people with an extra X?
Klinefelter syndrome
Well I wont say I'm not shocked
abnormal, sure
Well fine maybe my exact definition is not as accurate as something else
same reason we can't require having x arms or legs as people sometimes don't. but we still count them as human
But that fertilized egg has it's own unique set of dna
Completely separate from whatever entity's created it
So its life
incorrect. it has half and half.
or in the case of incest, it can be a clone
rare and require mother son or father daughter
but can be
I mean sure.
But that really doesn't change my point though. It's a completely separate thing from the parents.
Be those parents the same person or not