Message from @Grenade123
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If you agree to any term of service, you are to uphold it
now there is a problem, contracts between people need both people to consent, and the baby can't consent
Breaking that, leads to prison
technically that is an invalid contract
this doesn't necessarily give the mother the right to kill the baby
I mean if anyone was stupid enough to sign their life away I guess
My point being that sex is like signing that contract
with who?
the baby literally was not present
If the father and mother have sex
could not be present
so who is the contract with?
You both sign a contract of responsibility if the girl gets pregnant
well and we are back to the idea of life.
I already explained that
Let me explain the contract in simple terms
if you don't believe life begins until later in pregnancy, then it would be responsible to continue with the possibility of life if it meant the child would end up being born into suffering and cause a drain on everyone.
"You here by agree that by having sex, you agree to any baby that may be created by it."
A baby is created on conception
I said so earlier
well thats your believe. I don't believe such a contract trumps rights to a persons body, specifically if there was attempts made to prevent that outcome.
at least until a life is involved
So, if you accept that a human life is created at conception, Grenade, then you would accept that the child's right to live trumps the mother's right to bodily autonomy?
life
/līf/
noun
1.
the condition that distinguishes animals and plants from inorganic matter, including the capacity for growth, reproduction, functional activity, and continual change preceding death.
"the origins of life"
synonyms:existence, being, living, animation;More
2.
the existence of an individual human being or animal.
That DNA in the mother exists
It is similar to the mother but not her at the same time
very good, do all human cells have the same right as me?
all human cells are living
and an individual is debatable. if i cut off my arm, while it is still alive, does it have the same right to live as me?
A cell is not an individual
That bundle of separate DNA is
its half me
But half is not fully you?
does it have half rights then?
Becuase it is not you, you have no say over it once it begins to exist
So neither parent could agree to terminate it
Since they are not combined into one entity
Unlike the fertilized egg
Which while similar in DNA is not the same as either
but it has the rights to take and potential damn our bodies
And sperm or egg cells are still you, becuase it doesnt hsve different DNA inside it