yes, but why give one the option not the other? is life when the rapist is male just not as valuable?

because of body autonomy

That's a hard question to answer.

More or less what he said.

yes, but that is why we try to devalue the fetus as not being life

but if it is not life, then why not give the victims equal footing

victim gets to decide whether to abort or not

Its devalued as less than life to give those who undergo it more peace of mind

criminal forfeits their choice.

but if it is life, how much less is life worth than body autonomy?

I'm washing my hands of that call.

We have body autonomy for corpses

I've no sympathy for the hypothetical rapist.

Criminals get body autonomy too, even after they die

Two wrongs dont make a right and I see no point in violating people's rights anymore than absolutely necessary

If a woman wants to get an abortion she should talk it over with the father first

yes, then why violate the right to life over the right to body autonomy

and for rape, for someone who is as much a victim

Because the body autonomy right supersedes the right to life

Cant take organs out of a corpse if they didnt sign a donor card before they passed

I think you could get permission from the family, but dont quote me on that

california is fucked they dont even execute when the person wants it

thats almost evil

"naw, you don't get the easy way out"

its like denying old people Euthanasia when they want it.

kind of

executions are rare in the US

Theyll probably just spend their life on death row

they should happen more often

"I would like to die and move on to whatever might be waiting rather than sit here, crippled and dying"
"FUCK YOU GRANDMA! YOU ARE STAYING HERE BECAUSE **I** WANT YOU TO BE HERE"

there is a value to not killing. means those falsely convicted have a chance to one day see freedom again.

Yeap, despite the increasing use of DNA evidence we still see a lot of innocents convicted

true but im mostly talking about inrefetuable evidence

the state is good at faking that

but then again, if the state is against you, might as well ask for death because its gonna happen

"the state" might not be all of the state but a single person or a small group

Still bears riding it out and seeing what happens because the truth has a way of floating to the surface

Imagine Harry Potter giving up on life because Delores Umbridge became headmaster.

Lul

harry potter is trash

@ tims most recent vid he just uploaded, having been in the military I don't think it matters what the president says, unless he issues an order to the personnel on the ground. While there is some grey area that can be argued, unless it comes from the top if someone opens fire on the caravan without concrete proof they have a legit means to harm the soldier (A firearm or something) they are going to have a hell of a time, probably end up in prison.