Message from @Dvir
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ah i see
I think the lines are being redrawn personally. I got a bad feeling the identity politics is here to stay and will likely become a centerpiece on the left. I also think economics is going to split, with the left becoming more pro-business and the right less capitalist.
What do you mean by less capitalist? I might be misunderstanding things, but I thought a system either is or isn't capitalist.
I guess he meant that economic nationalism is 'less capitalist'.
with the left becoming more pro-business and the right less capitalist.
wew there, that is hellaa fun assumption
Corporate Democrats are only one of the many disparate groups on the left at the moment.
dear lord
No question that the left has given up the working class for multinational corporate interests.
you need some lectures on economics lads, the state of the server is tragic
I'm sure most of us have heard lectures on that neolib pseudoscience.
there are around 7 directions in economics but i see you heard the neo-lib which is a sub set of one of the schools
Aren't they something like Mercantilist, Laisseze-Faire, State, Liberal, Protectionist, and Social?
^ now this is not a waste of time
yes
you forgot anarchy
I knew I was missing one but I didn't know what.
Made sense it was the most idiotic one.
kek, its actually not, its people are not smart enough to live sucessfully under it
maybe in few hundred years
I don't know much about it
I kinda assumed from the name of it
its not bad, unless you want a world where smartest person has under 200IQ to use it
Is it cutthroat capitalism?
brb, need afk
nope its not cutthroat capitalism
Just looked it up and I think I get the idea of it. It is like the inverse of anarcho-syndicalism where instead of the dissolution of the state for the sake of the worker it is for the sake of the consumer. While anarcho-syndicalism values solidarity anarcho-capitalism values individuality.
yes those are not full anarchies, full anarchy is in next millenia if we dont kill ourselves
I think such a system could only come into fruition if the innate nature of humans is changed from technological advancements. Because humans are innately neither fully individualistic or fully interdependent, and for either of those two systems to occur human nature would need to be modified to accommodate them.
For anarcho-capitalism to occur the individual person would need to become a fully independent creature in order for it to succeed. That means they would never *need* to have to interact with other humans. Technically speaking, a very capable person could be able to do this like you mentioned earlier, but even then it is not really preferable to living socially.
that is why i said, not yet
But is it desirable? For me it isn't.
I think moving either too close to full interdependency or full independency would be destructive to human nature as we know it.
it doesnt matter if it is desirable, it will happen as part of evolution
So you believe it be inevitable progression?
yes of course
its not too soon
An anarcho-syndicalist or socialist would say the same thing just at the other end of the spectrum.