Message from @Kali Yuga
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socialism is one of the ideas to reach other state of development
I think that is a Western-Centric viewpoint.
communism is anarchic systme
look at economic theories from problem solving point
They are similar but communism still believe in there being a state.
nope
you see
people like own shit turf so much any deviation from original idea gains new name, so communism split into communism with minimal state and anarcho-communism
which is dumb
because one is subset of another, an optional corollary and not a new completely different set of systems
Communism is a state ruled by the workers though, while Anarchism is the absolute abolishment of the state.
its same thing in its essence
It is, but still a distinction.
read onw statement its right there
onw statement?
its a distinction for those wish to gain name in history for "coming up" with "new ideas"
own*
Yes but I personally view ideas as a constant evolution of thought, it is a progression that can lead to greater deviations.
Because you are right there is nothing new under the sun, but that doesn't discount the distinction that comes from iterations on the same idea.
well but that doesnt mean it is so
if base assumptions/axions are same, call it what you want marxism will be marxism
be it struggle of working vs burgeoise or identity politics
You are right is the same thing with a new coat of paint, but that is how things have always been.
nope
For instance, the earliest work we know of, the Epic of Gilgamesh was a work that evolved over the course of a millenium.
it how people want them to be
same for bible
yeah
and talmud, and what not
but the premise is same, however, some premises are different
the evolve but evolution of ideas is not chained like genetic inheritance
it can influence though
Just making sure, you guys know that the Talmud isn't like the 'Jewish Bible' right?
totally irrelevant to the conversation
Well, you just compared the Epic of Gilgamesh and The Bible to the Talmud.
And that's not exactly accurate.
You wouldn't compare Harry Potter, Game of Thrones and the 'For Dummies' series.
But, yeah. That explanation aside, apologies for interrupting the debate.
That is a poor comparison to make. The Tanakh is of course the closest equivalent to the Christian Bible, with it being made up of the Torah, Nevi'im, and Ketuvim.
The Talmud is a study on theology and religious law