Message from @Atkins

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2018-11-10 20:06:10 UTC  

It'd be as inconsequential to me as Canada is, when it gets down to it.

2018-11-10 20:06:53 UTC  

If a state wanted to enact a Nordic Capitalism model, they should be free to do so within their own state.

2018-11-10 20:08:02 UTC  

By that measure, the States would be able to compete with one another, to find actual balance in policy.

2018-11-10 20:08:30 UTC  

Tying the entire nation to one 'Indivisible' federal government means a single ship sinking drowns the armada.

2018-11-10 20:08:54 UTC  

i don't think that states should be permitted to enact policies that directly undermine the enumerated powers.

2018-11-10 20:09:19 UTC  

that limits how much diversity there can be in possible models

2018-11-10 20:09:53 UTC  

like California should not be permitted to have sanctuary cities and obfuscate and obstruct attempts to enforce immigration law.

2018-11-10 20:10:01 UTC  

Absolutely.

2018-11-10 20:10:15 UTC  

but if California wants to have universal healthcare fine by me so long as they're the ones paying for it.

2018-11-10 20:10:22 UTC  

Concerns over immigration into the United States is a Federal matter.

2018-11-10 20:10:38 UTC  

Because of free interstate travel.

2018-11-10 20:10:42 UTC  

You're talking my world now

2018-11-10 20:10:51 UTC  

that's how it's supposed to be, but we've corrupted the system

2018-11-10 20:10:54 UTC  

This is ABSOLUTELY what I advocate.

2018-11-10 20:11:10 UTC  

You HAVE to allow competition

2018-11-10 20:11:23 UTC  

And you HAVE to let the best ideas win out.

2018-11-10 20:11:24 UTC  

Holy shit. Atkins and I agree. I need to bleach my brain!

2018-11-10 20:11:26 UTC  

and we're afraid to use federal power to try to reign in california.

2018-11-10 20:11:46 UTC  

The federal powers EXPLICITLY OUTLINED IN THE CONSTITUTION.

2018-11-10 20:12:15 UTC  

All Cali is doing is refusing to use local power to enforce federal law. The feds can still do it themselves.

2018-11-10 20:12:55 UTC  

That in itself, though, is creating policy concerning immigration.

2018-11-10 20:13:19 UTC  

Oregon just voted 2/3 to 1/3 to withhold local assistance for federal enforcement of immigration law. The feds can tax. Let them pay for it.

2018-11-10 20:14:07 UTC  

Atkins, that was one individual's use of their liberty.

2018-11-10 20:14:12 UTC  

Oregon is a sideshow in that they don't have a border with Mexico.

2018-11-10 20:14:21 UTC  

I've got to head out...

2018-11-10 20:15:02 UTC  

Hasta

2018-11-10 20:15:35 UTC  

California is a sideshow too on that they don't control thier border with Mexico.

2018-11-10 20:15:41 UTC  

The feds do

2018-11-10 20:18:22 UTC  

They're aiding and abetting criminals, and enticing them with free stuff. They are complicit.

2018-11-10 20:18:44 UTC  

They are actively working to undermine the authority of the United States and are directly harming other states as a result.

2018-11-10 20:19:16 UTC  

Their mindless virtue-signalling has real world consequences.

2018-11-10 20:19:50 UTC  

I'm inclined to agree.

2018-11-10 20:20:24 UTC  

If it wasn't for the tech giants (that they're currently trying to tax into leaving), California would have long since imploded.

2018-11-10 20:20:59 UTC  

And when they implode the diaspora of illegals into neighboring states will begin.

2018-11-10 20:26:06 UTC  

Part of the problem with our strengthened federalist system is that certain states such as Cali are able to subsidize themselves at the expense of non-state residents

2018-11-10 20:27:02 UTC  

Essentially requiring states with balanced budgets and surpluses, even, to pay what amounts to foreign aid, by force.

2018-11-10 20:27:22 UTC  

So a system that works is required to support a system that doesn't.

2018-11-10 20:33:47 UTC  

With that in mind it becomes quite apparent why Californians are advocates for redistribution of wealth. Their lifestyles are already dependent on it.

2018-11-10 20:47:09 UTC  

But Cali is a doner state

2018-11-10 20:53:55 UTC  

barely. they receive $0.99 in federal funds for every dollar of federal tax.