As for safety, that's also a criminal case.

They get to go to prison.

And in the process people die? Again, that's what happened in the 1930 and before.

Sure.

Okay. You're a purist. That's cool. We're going to agree to disagree.

See Codes, that was easy. 😃

lol...

But you didn't sign a contract, you just showed or in older times didn't show the ingredients

No regulations means, it's not a crime

contract is an agreement, between 2 or more parties.

And the agreement was, I will buy this

If Paradox is willing to permit the deaths of innocents in his adherence to a pure free market, I suspect he won't have issue with some fiscal imbalances. No point in pursuing further. And no, I'm not saying Codes isn't moral, I'm simply saying that his worldview permits immorality which is dealt with after the fact. Mine wishes to address socially harmful immorality proactively. But his is likely more internally consistent because mine will always waffle over shades of grey. I respect his worldview even as I will do everything I can to counter it because my morality differs.

He does until it's his mother, or son

"this" has to be "this" and not "that".

that's the breach.

I will fight to protect him even as he eschews my protecting him. We'll be in conflict, but that doesn't mean that I don't respect him and even envy the simplicity of his worldview.

That was only a thing because of regulation, if they never regulated it. They could continue on with no consequences

no, that's an agreement.

I'm assuming he's fine with his son dying due to bad products and that he'll feel redeemed by the legal proceedings afterward to make him whole in his loss.

That dont do anything because it's not illegal to lie to your consumers

That's the logical conclusion of his argument for a pure free market. He's willing to die for it.

Until ofc regulations

And kill for it.

If they kill my son, i want them dead 😃

Yeah, you would have to do it yourself

So Paradox, my understanding is that you're okay with laws against harm. So if someone through dishonestly or duplicity causes your son's death or loss of a kidney, you want to see them held accountable by the law.

Because no regulation means it was completely legal

that would be a breach of contract, yes.

You just don't want to regulate against specific means of that harm?

I dont sign any contract when I am at the store?

you don't have to sign one.

Where is this contract they are supposedly breaching?

helps in court though 😃

sometimes...

Is it implied by regulations?

I am not against harm either, if it's agreed upon.

But it has to be prospectively and specifically agreed upon, right? Like two men about to fight a title match in Las Vegas?

You can't just place "This product may kill you. Don't hold us accountable" in 6 point font on a label and you're good?

No. It could be sold "as is", at your own risk.

Oh my

yeah, you and I will never agree :p