Message from @Cody

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2018-11-30 12:23:20 UTC  

Yeah, then they start to sell you false products for profit

2018-11-30 12:23:30 UTC  

Then I die, or sue them.

2018-11-30 12:23:32 UTC  

Cause hey, it's not illegal

2018-11-30 12:23:57 UTC  

and probably buy form somewhere else, too :p

2018-11-30 12:24:00 UTC  

It's not illegal to false advertise, atleast not until it was regulated

2018-11-30 12:24:20 UTC  

Yeah then that new store does it too

2018-11-30 12:24:27 UTC  

Cause again it's not illegal

2018-11-30 12:24:32 UTC  

advertisements aren't an agreement.

2018-11-30 12:24:39 UTC  

Codes, you will never "win' this one. He's got a pure argument. There are no holes until real life happens and he wonders how it ended up this way. Or maybe he really does die a happy martyr for his cause. Or maybe he gets lucky. I'm a woman so we all know we're risk averse. I bow out of this one and suggest you do too, Codes.

2018-11-30 12:24:47 UTC  

What's written on a box is not an agreement

2018-11-30 12:25:20 UTC  

The irony is that after he dies, we regulate to keep more from dieing

2018-11-30 12:25:23 UTC  

It is when that's what they are saying I am buying.

2018-11-30 12:25:32 UTC  

So it wasnt even for his own cause

2018-11-30 12:25:56 UTC  

Then unicorn snot is illegal, even though it's just a kids toy

2018-11-30 12:26:04 UTC  

His whole world is built around Caveat Emptor.

2018-11-30 12:26:06 UTC  

Cause it's not actually unicorn snot

2018-11-30 12:27:07 UTC  

You are not getting what is written on the box

2018-11-30 12:27:34 UTC  

It's a breach of contract, that you never signed, now you can sue them

2018-11-30 12:28:05 UTC  

sure.

2018-11-30 12:28:24 UTC  

or they could put "not actual unicorn snot" on there somewhere.

2018-11-30 12:28:36 UTC  

So you are saying that regulation in that instance is okay, seems like a very strange hole

2018-11-30 12:28:46 UTC  

not regulation,

2018-11-30 12:29:00 UTC  

it's contract.

2018-11-30 12:29:08 UTC  

You see, you cant sue for something that isnt illegal

2018-11-30 12:29:32 UTC  

That's the irony

2018-11-30 12:29:51 UTC  

Regulations exist, so you can sue, or your family's can sue

2018-11-30 12:30:09 UTC  

you believe a contract is a regulation?

2018-11-30 12:30:20 UTC  

If they didn't, there is no legally binding contract that says they have to sell you what's written

2018-11-30 12:30:31 UTC  

Its implied through regulation

2018-11-30 12:31:16 UTC  

I mean, sure if you signed a contract everytime you leave a story

2018-11-30 12:31:18 UTC  

If I am walking down the street and I decide not to punch someone in the face, is that me regulating?

2018-11-30 12:31:21 UTC  

I guess your golden

2018-11-30 12:31:41 UTC  

But no one does that because regulations imply the contract exists

2018-11-30 12:32:07 UTC  

It is easier plus saves time and legal fees over bullshit

2018-11-30 12:33:22 UTC  

Just makes it easier to punish wrongdoers to regulate certain bad things

2018-11-30 12:34:27 UTC  

But I mean, when everybody dies because of salmonella I guess its okay

2018-11-30 12:34:49 UTC  

Only ones who matter are the rich

2018-11-30 12:35:44 UTC  

ya, we don't use the same language codes, sorry.

2018-11-30 12:42:29 UTC  

*hug*

2018-11-30 15:41:56 UTC  

@DrYuriMom life, liberty, and property. Undue deprivation of any of these should be investigated. Almost any valid crime is some combination of these matters.

In the case of lying about ingredients, I don't think requiring more open information stifles competition, I believe that creates a more liberal and consentual arrangement between buyer and seller. Hence why fraud is fraud.

If someone knowingly puts antifreeze in cough medicine after deaths have occurred, there's an argument to consider that murder. If the matter was not researched ahead of time, that's neglectful homicide. In cases of medicine, there should absolutely be a standard of research expected. My issue is with the protectionism Big Pharma partakes in. That drives prices and kills people, too, when groups like Bayer/Monsanto are able to directly influence the body that regulates the food and medical industries.

Further reading, your arguments seem to lean towards acknowledge of some sort of corporate form of thought crime. Even with our current protectionist model, we still have phen-phens and the like.

2018-11-30 15:43:50 UTC  

A fair and free market is not without regulation. That regulation just has to be kept light and reasonable.