And that's just internet.

We didn't even take away electricity

I recall once, that supposedly china turned "off" their routers and there was a major internet blackout

thanks

typos!

Unless you want us to read that in a Hispanic affectation

regulation and centralized control should be exercised in matters that are too cumbersome or pervasive for local control. I think a currency system and possibly the internet fit under these circumstances

I can agree

But absolute transparency is needed for those matters.

also defense and public maintenance like roadways. other than that, it should be local

yes, complete transparency

with possible exception for defense matters that are deemed temporarily too sensitive

I don't think that "the internet" can be maintained from a centralized source. The physical layer, sure, but not much beyond that

it kinda falls under public maintenance for me, but I mean more like regulation of forums being constitutional rather than privatized

considering the internet is more and more a public space than a private one

you can totally privatize the shit out of making sure it stays up and running, just like how cities and states contract out to private companies for construction

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You're going to need an excessively large government to be able to ensure that forums are following the constitution, to say nothing of jurisdiction

not necessarily, the system we have already has provisions that COULD allow for it

a lot of our internet usage is under the watchful eye of the big boys, right? google and facebook

make them liable for breaches of rights

they'll do it far more efficiently than a government could

They don't know the content of every site you've ever been on, especially if you aren't using their services

not them specifically, but those who are hosters

Like there's so many ways around this it's not even funny. And *then* there's the jurisdiction issue

there's so many ways around public forum breaches of rights it's not even funny anyway

"Oh we moved our site to [insert country here] so we can do what we like"

I'm not saying it's a perfect system, but it'll be better than what we have now

except that sites aren't anywhere, that's why european and asian laws affect us in the US. they're not going to risk losing that many customers

The issue with what we have now is user driven. Giving the government jurisdiction over your private interactions with web hosts and other users will most assuredly backfire in the next 20 years

Not all sites are major platforms/data mining schemes

You're looking at a nail right now and saying "we should just hammer everything grey and metal"

maybe so, I'm just kinda pissed off at the situation we're stuck in. the internet acting as a series of privatized sites that are either colluding or getting crowded out by those who are is leading to horrible infringements on the way we speak, think, and interact

Sure, and I would love to see those sites yeeted honestly

For the most part I don't think they bring much to the table

the oligopolization of the internet means that we're basically dealing with an authoritarian government under the guise of a corporation. the internet is like its own country

and if you don't agree with the monarchs, you're silenced

Are we talking about ISP's or websites?

I was talking about websites, but ISPs aren't much better

internet should be a commodity service, like water. you pay proportionally for the amount you use, not the type you use

but that's a different argument