that's the best solution. it's only problematic in that I'm literally fighting the market forces here

Riot.IM might be a good one to check out if you, like me, expect Discord to implode in a few years. Rocket.chat as well
I personally think social medial platforms just shithouse in general but there's options for that too

No, you're using market forces. Sell people on the idea of using a less invasive alternative

People are leaving FB for a reason

that's true, FB is finally slowing down

but amazon and google... yikes

amazon literally buys out anyone who would be competitors by buying their product and reselling it, which is scummy

I guess it's the capitalist paradox: competition is good for everyone except companies

You can still order from many stores directly, including groceries at this point. You can also just buy locally

Something a lot of lefties have been promoting for years

which is rather ironic

I dunno about that. They've got some rather specific economic ideas that such a plan works well with. It's just that some things you can't buy local, and our economy is driven by people buying shit they really don't need or definitely cannot afford

honestly though debt is a major hindrance to the economy IMO but I get that's how we generate more wealth and it sucks

I don't think it's an especially good or desirable system either, outside of the top down perspective. But that's what happens when you get centralized market tending

not necessarily, but it is a likelihood in any event

@Herkules97 pstb over here

What is pstb

an anomanapia indicating the sound of someone trying to get your attention.

As you can see we have trolls oh-plenty.

oh, you mean the pst

Idk, he's fun to talk to

But that is normal on the net so we try to just ignore them

Is that what trolls are? They seem fun

Trolls are the cyberspaces version of drama stars, they want to be the center of attention, just leave them alone and they will go away after a while.

But if we're not trying to come to a conclusion, why not join in? It's all for fun

Most of the folks here are hovering around the middle, but we have some far Authoritarian, Socialist, Libertarian, and Capitalists types in here too and we have trolls. Since this place is fairly open and non-judgemental, the Trolls come here to hang out.

Mhm, I have no idea what the political leanings actually mean. I just watch Tim's videos and wanted to know what they were, not knowing what they mean exactly, but they are on different sides

If this poll existed I would read up on what the sides mean to understand it better

https://www.politicalcompass.org/test

It is a self guided exam that lets you know

Because mainstream is right now just repbulican= racist and democrats= gods from what I hear and that's not really right

http://philosophicalmuser.blogspot.com/2015/07/the-politcal-compass-test-isnt-very.html

for some bench marks

Plus even knowing the sides, that doesn't tell the whole story. It's useless curiosity

Like knowing what people eat for breakfast, it's not really going to go anywhere

I realize that, but it helps you get a sort of base line bearing.

and as someone mentioned, it would help people making hitpieces I guess

Take the good with the bad

In reality it should be 3d to account for "I did this" vs "This happened to me"

A lot of modern Republicans are very close to the center, what we are seeing is the "Left" and the "Liberal Progressives" as they call themselves moving further and further to the left and higher and higher into the Authoritarian spectrum. "Intersectionality" at this point is easily confused with the dogma exposed in Mien Komf.

@Khanclansith I find myself agreeing with many of his comments about sloppy questions, it is why I don't think my compass is exactly right, I usually come down in the "Right Libertarian" a bit too far right than I think I am because i am answering some questions "The closest of two things I don't really agree with"