what, everyone sleep naked, and they let their kids sleep in bed if they wanted to?

As many families did and do

indeed

i could see that raising little red flags at the time (i mean, kids will barge their way into showers) but a vindictive ex-wife could easily turn that against you

Yep

what a world we live in

"trying to teach your kids nudity is not sexual? TO BAD! YOU EX-WIFE WANTS YOU IN JAIL SO FUCK YOU!"

perhaps thats not something to be trying to ingrain in your kids

Normalizing nudity and naturism will go a long way to helping put a stop to that

"kid not know what personal space is yet and alone time? WELL FUCK YOU! STATE FOSTER SYSTEM NEEDS MORE MONEY AND WE NEED KIDS FOR THAT"

@Blackhawk342 what do you mean "ingrain into your kids"

you ingrain into them that nudity is sexual

if you don't do that, then it won't happen as much.

can be a bit of an issue given surrounding society but you can at least hope for a bit of 50/50

So that is the debate I suppose

Should free speech rights include the right to dress as you want

i mean, in your own house especially?

In public

I assume you already have that right at home

i mean, i don't think there is any federal laws against public nudity but i could be wrong

There are no federal protections either

well and i don't know if the states have much in terms of public decency, or if its usually down the local municipalities

Right, it's decided by the states.

because i do know that a lot of towns and such will have different rules on it

and obviously nudist places exist

true, but I think that there should be a culture shift away from the government 'protecting' you from offense

indeed

the government shouldn't be protecting your "sensibilities"

I think the government is obligated to protect children from harm, but the government should be required to scientifically prove this harm

nudity isnt on that list

harm is, to an extent, subjective

exposing them to "sin" people consider harm

the problem is, if its the governments job to protect children, then that means you are removed that responsibility from the parent

I mean when child rights class with parental rights

you have determined parents are not fit to protect their kids, since it has to assume any given parent will be unable to protect their kid, which means it assumes all parents cannot

then it becomes the parents job to prove to the government they can protect their child

clash*

this is a bit of a problem

even when its clear the parents are causing problems, the government solution to remove the child usually doesn't end up help the child much

look at how much of a mess our foster system is

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