It's what's in the headlines. What gets in the article.

@Khanclansith Really? I'm super curious as to how you arrive at them being some setup victims of a greater "hit piece"

The subtle choices of words.

It's what I find to be just mystifying

Well, for one thing, there was a camera just in the right position...

Which isn't that unusual. But the editing was done on purpose.

Nathan (the Native American who was leading the group) has been known to create racial ruckuses before.

The first call was the false meme JPEG that went out claiming the MAGA students attacked the FN group.

Probably with a similar MO.

2 Nathan himself as Pratel stated

It's actually not unusual among more radical minority organizations.

3 the long video doesn't have any of the "Build a wall" or anything else in the audio

There's loads of content to consume and cultivate a thorough assessment, which does not lead to the determin nation that definitely absolves the group

The real target isn't the middle or the right, they want to build support among the left for their own small organization.

4 the Hate group was ignored in all statements until it was called out

Starting fights with obviously right-leaning groups and playing victim is common.

5 the FN moved right into the middle of the students and got right in their face trying to provoke reactions

And this comes from the kinds of manuals and textbooks that are passed around those grievance studies programs.

I'd actually bet the FN guys had contacts in the media to push the narrative exactly.

indtead of like one would think from the FN Member's statements form a barrier between the two to keep peace

One of the tricks of radical action is to convince people they aren't seeing what they're actually seeing.

Alright so addressing point by point, if I may. Which, thanks for laying those out by the way

It's why ANTIFA screams 'peaceful protest' while throwing firecrackers.

6 we already have people taking down the proof that students were reacting to the hate group multiple times

It's not that ANTIFA actually cares, it's because they want to convince onlookers that they're not 'violent'

It ruins videos showing them attacking people because it 're-contextualizes' the scene.

Do I need to keep going?

This might not have been planed in advance, but it was what the military would call a "Target of Opertunity."

Radical left groups will actually rehearse certain actions with members observing for a distance to try and control media spin and manipulate the image given out.

This also, by the way, is why it can be hard for people like Tim to get good information from their protests. They have 'trained' PR people in the wings.

1 - is there any content you can link unto for the Indian guys history youmentioned? I caught mentions of an incident regarding college students having face paint and responding aggressively to him, but not not anythin ngg further

Hold on a sec. do you have something on that incident? It sounds very similar.

The long video, which one of the black aggressors is shooting, has loads of dialogue amongst the group themselves but also in rpwaknse to the black guys championing trump punch lines

But do we have the extended video from a 3rd party in that instance?

The question was if Nathan Phillips has a history of trying to create provocations. If he did this before, it would explain a lot, would it not?

The youth group, that is. Make america great again, as well as 'it a guys like you here are why dobals trump is our presidebt" is audible im n various points in n the long video

It could lend an entry point angle for us to consider that could help determine a motive. But dude those black guys were a significant flash point in this whole th in ng

You're changing the topic. I don't think that really says much. If they're wearing MAGA hats, it would be more strange for them not to say pro-Trump memes.

Honestly, I don't see where "build the wall" really says much of anything at all. There's alot of people there, it wouldn't even be necessarily clear who "build the wall" would be said by or who it is directed to.

No no. I'm going point by point, Klaf stated earlier in his point 3

Though I haven't heard "build the wall" myself.