Message from @caykoh

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2019-01-21 04:04:18 UTC  

The Israel-Palestine conflict is the worst.

2019-01-21 04:04:24 UTC  

Given everything and with how the First Nation members have had toe ammend their statements and wtiht the 2 hour video debunking many justifications it is clear that the First Nation group is acting in bad faith

2019-01-21 04:04:26 UTC  

He isnt saying what he is actually thinking, then? Because so far is sentiment on twitter atleast, has been that he has confidence in concluding the matters as he states them, which is a conclusion that doesn't align with a "liberal" position .

2019-01-21 04:04:49 UTC  

He can't waffle on twitter. Too few characters.

2019-01-21 04:05:01 UTC  

There are no more liberal possitions. especialy not on twitter

2019-01-21 04:05:20 UTC  

Honestly, I kinda wish Tim would just go with a more "just the facts" statement, without editorializing in general. But to each their own.

2019-01-21 04:05:39 UTC  

Actually, the media bias and lying is primarily via exclusion and subtly shifting the frame.

2019-01-21 04:05:52 UTC  

The editorializing is he MO honestly

2019-01-21 04:06:03 UTC  

It's what's in the headlines. What gets in the article.

2019-01-21 04:06:06 UTC  

@Khanclansith Really? I'm super curious as to how you arrive at them being some setup victims of a greater "hit piece"

2019-01-21 04:06:11 UTC  

The subtle choices of words.

2019-01-21 04:06:26 UTC  

It's what I find to be just mystifying

2019-01-21 04:06:34 UTC  

Well, for one thing, there was a camera just in the right position...

2019-01-21 04:06:45 UTC  

Which isn't that unusual. But the editing was done on purpose.

2019-01-21 04:07:13 UTC  

Nathan (the Native American who was leading the group) has been known to create racial ruckuses before.

2019-01-21 04:07:19 UTC  

The first call was the false meme JPEG that went out claiming the MAGA students attacked the FN group.

2019-01-21 04:07:23 UTC  

Probably with a similar MO.

2019-01-21 04:07:35 UTC  

2 Nathan himself as Pratel stated

2019-01-21 04:07:58 UTC  

It's actually not unusual among more radical minority organizations.

2019-01-21 04:08:04 UTC  

3 the long video doesn't have any of the "Build a wall" or anything else in the audio

2019-01-21 04:08:06 UTC  

There's loads of content to consume and cultivate a thorough assessment, which does not lead to the determin nation that definitely absolves the group

2019-01-21 04:08:27 UTC  

The real target isn't the middle or the right, they want to build support among the left for their own small organization.

2019-01-21 04:08:34 UTC  

4 the Hate group was ignored in all statements until it was called out

2019-01-21 04:08:54 UTC  

Starting fights with obviously right-leaning groups and playing victim is common.

2019-01-21 04:09:21 UTC  

5 the FN moved right into the middle of the students and got right in their face trying to provoke reactions

2019-01-21 04:09:21 UTC  

And this comes from the kinds of manuals and textbooks that are passed around those grievance studies programs.

2019-01-21 04:09:53 UTC  

I'd actually bet the FN guys had contacts in the media to push the narrative exactly.

2019-01-21 04:09:56 UTC  

indtead of like one would think from the FN Member's statements form a barrier between the two to keep peace

2019-01-21 04:10:31 UTC  

One of the tricks of radical action is to convince people they aren't seeing what they're actually seeing.

2019-01-21 04:10:45 UTC  

Alright so addressing point by point, if I may. Which, thanks for laying those out by the way

2019-01-21 04:10:46 UTC  

It's why ANTIFA screams 'peaceful protest' while throwing firecrackers.

2019-01-21 04:11:08 UTC  

6 we already have people taking down the proof that students were reacting to the hate group multiple times

2019-01-21 04:11:09 UTC  

It's not that ANTIFA actually cares, it's because they want to convince onlookers that they're not 'violent'

2019-01-21 04:11:39 UTC  

It ruins videos showing them attacking people because it 're-contextualizes' the scene.

2019-01-21 04:11:48 UTC  

Do I need to keep going?

2019-01-21 04:12:21 UTC  

This might not have been planed in advance, but it was what the military would call a "Target of Opertunity."

2019-01-21 04:12:25 UTC  

Radical left groups will actually rehearse certain actions with members observing for a distance to try and control media spin and manipulate the image given out.

2019-01-21 04:12:49 UTC  

This also, by the way, is why it can be hard for people like Tim to get good information from their protests. They have 'trained' PR people in the wings.

2019-01-21 04:13:00 UTC  

1 - is there any content you can link unto for the Indian guys history youmentioned? I caught mentions of an incident regarding college students having face paint and responding aggressively to him, but not not anythin ngg further

2019-01-21 04:14:47 UTC  

Hold on a sec. do you have something on that incident? It sounds very similar.

2019-01-21 04:14:59 UTC  

The long video, which one of the black aggressors is shooting, has loads of dialogue amongst the group themselves but also in rpwaknse to the black guys championing trump punch lines