Message from @Vannevariable

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2019-01-22 14:31:30 UTC  

Yo, opinions, is this freshie "stateless socialist" brave for actually attending and asking questions at a right wing event? https://youtu.be/Y9O-NoccXQQ

2019-01-22 15:03:22 UTC  

brave ?

2019-01-22 15:06:04 UTC  

umm socialism is everyone owns the labor of everyone

2019-01-22 15:09:15 UTC  

lol

2019-01-22 15:34:19 UTC  

Equal access to everyone is equal amounts of enslavement.

2019-01-22 15:39:51 UTC  

yeah, because whoever coordinates that equalization is the one with actual power

2019-01-22 15:40:00 UTC  

communism makes it the government

2019-01-22 15:40:09 UTC  

and that's USUALLY what happens in socialism

2019-01-22 23:29:23 UTC  

The voting thing is false though.

2019-01-22 23:30:02 UTC  

Also, the picture for 14 has things somewhat reversed

2019-01-23 14:34:48 UTC  

somewhat false. The reason why Trump got in is because the republicans got complacent, expecting RINOs vs Neolibs to go on forever. Pretty much everyone expected the public to reject him. By the time the republicans considered Bern'ing him it would have been suicidal to do so

2019-01-23 16:01:00 UTC  

Alternatively, everyone in the political world knew about Clinton's dirt and expected campaigners to sabotage her through over confidence, if so it never actually mattered who the Republican candidate was so they might as well have had some fun with Trump

2019-01-23 16:33:00 UTC  

That's why I didn't vote in the 2016 election. I probably would have voted for Bernie if he had won the nomination, but at the time I knew too much about Clinton to want to vote for her, and I had bought in to enough of the anti-Trump narrative that I didn't want to vote for him either.

2019-01-23 16:55:16 UTC  

the right had no way of berning him, the republicans have been in a state of fragmentation since the end of the bush administration, they arnt a united order with supreme power of political manipulation the same way the dnc was, bernie WAS very populer as a canadate against hillery at all points during his campaign as trump was on the republican side, but the republican side, they were both consitered outsiders by their respective partys, the big difference was the solidarity to focus the most onto a single canadate that the dnc had which the republicans did not have, not to mention the republicans kinda wanted to win so as the underdog they went with what was the best chance where the dnc went with what was most safe for them

2019-01-23 21:37:42 UTC  

I feel like you're forgetting the pushback against Trump from establishment Republicans. They hated him and wanted to replace him, but they couldn't because of the momentum he had. NeverTrumpers. Bernie got the treatment he did because, for all her faults, Hillary was a viable candidate (as evidenced by the amount of votes she pulled). As much as people like to wave the Sanders flag, I think he would have genuinely lost harder against Trump. Ultimately the Republicans' overall weakness is precisely what allowed Trump to shit all over their preferred candidates and hijack their ticket, they just didn't realize what would happen until it was too late

2019-01-23 21:46:07 UTC  

I disagree, a lot of bernie supporters just plain didn't vote or voted for Trump because of the DNCs handling of the entire event.
Clinton may have had a lot of votes, but how many of those were from states like California where most of them were not needed to get all the electoral collage votes.

2019-01-23 22:07:00 UTC  

This was written in another server by a person who is in their own words an "abolish private property" socialist
Those kids are problematic. They were being extremely rude and mocking an Indigenous man. I don’t think that his chanting—which was fairly intense—was well-advised, but it wasn’t the worst thing. You can see in one video the kids getting a little weirded out and not sure how to respond. I think if a few kids hadn’t started some chanting, they would have all stopped. But they didn’t. They decided to go along with it, surround him, and jump up and down while mock-chanting to the beat he was drumming. I’m not sure if this was racist or stupid high school boy shit but neither is appropriate. They could have decided to not follow along with that behavior and they chose poorly.

2019-01-23 22:07:16 UTC  

I’m a little tired of journalists pretending like every little detail dramatically changes the narrative surrounding a story. It’s dishonest reporting and bullshit, quite frankly. And this often comes from centrists and people who aren’t as liberal as they think they are, which possibly tells you something about the spin put into these. I agree that there is a lot of fake outrage passed off in the news cycle from both the right and left, and I don’t think this story is worthy of the attention it’s getting, but so much of this “there are new angles” thing is bullshit. While I disagree with the conclusions of the Atlantic article on this whole debacle, I do agree that it’s a bit of a Rorschach test—you see what you want to see. But that isn’t because it gives little information. It’s because people have political views that guide what they focus on, and unfortunately it seems like most journalists want so badly to try to get past this that they miss the forest for the trees. And that’s worrying considering they’re who we get our news from.

2019-01-23 22:07:51 UTC  

Just so everyone here has a glimpse into the mind of how the far left perceived the situation

2019-01-23 22:35:25 UTC  

... I assume they ignored any additional information that was released?

2019-01-23 22:35:59 UTC  

like the now known facts that the indians marched up to and into the crowd of students in the first place?

2019-01-23 22:36:23 UTC  

Fuck anyone who says "problematic" instantly you just know a load of bs is coming

2019-01-23 22:43:27 UTC  

weasel words

2019-01-23 22:47:40 UTC  

@The Yellow King that was post RNC giving up. They had already lost their candidates, and the Never Trumpers were set in their ways.
As for Bernie, anyone who owns or wishes to run a business and has a good head on their shoulders would vote against him. Neolibs would have to pinch their noses and go with Trump or risk getting dicked over by a guy who thinks businesses should fail before paying less in employee benefits. Dude got rocked by Ted Cruz and a random crowd member. He would have been destroyed lol

2019-01-23 22:58:55 UTC  

The second paragraph is pretty much what ive heard most die hard trumpers complain about whenever the media talks about turmp

2019-01-23 23:00:26 UTC  

though the second to last sentence is reverseed

2019-01-23 23:01:36 UTC  

Normally the right would say that the journalists are trying to make this a major issue

2019-01-23 23:02:02 UTC  

But apparently in this case he thinks is the opposite, that the media is trying to downplay the issue

2019-01-24 02:09:37 UTC  

dont build your dreams that depend on other people until you can build other people that you can depend on

2019-01-24 21:41:35 UTC  

the one conservative blog i like to go to for their perspective is not happy with national review

2019-01-24 21:44:19 UTC  

Is that the NeverTrumper or was that Weekly Standard

2019-01-24 21:44:29 UTC  

the blog?

2019-01-24 21:44:34 UTC  

the blog is Ace of Spades

2019-01-24 21:45:11 UTC  

I mean National Review

2019-01-24 21:45:33 UTC  

I don't know

2019-01-24 21:45:54 UTC  

Considering the grudge Ace has with them, they might have been Never Trumpers

2019-01-24 22:40:39 UTC  

National Review has a mix at this point. You're probably thinking of Weekly Standard, which was Bill Kristol's magazine and is now dead.

2019-01-24 22:42:42 UTC  

Anyways, the article I posted was positing the reason that the Covington story got as far as it did was a lack of ideological balance in the newsrooms.

2019-01-24 22:43:11 UTC  

I don't think it's a solution on it's own (since the balance of power tends to not be done too well), but it's an interesting point.